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Student arrested for carry on campus given 8 years.
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Another life ruined in Connecticut by this fucked up gun control madness. Guy got 8 years! Notice how the tone changes by the end of the story to make it seem like he was a Adam Lanza waiting for a place to happen saying he had looked up Sandy Hook on the internet and whatnot. I also love how they all always publish the round count in someone's home now.

Quote:He was arrested in 2013 on campus with the two handguns in his possession while a third gun, a Bushmaster XM-15 rifle, was locked in his SUV just off campus. Dong, who worked at the time for an armored car company, had a clean record and had permits for his firearms, was the subject of a police manhunt on campus after a homeless woman saw the rifle in his vehicle at drugstore near campus and called police.

This led at the time to a campus lockdown until police found Dong and took him into custody. Upon a search of his room, police found newspaper clippings of various mass shootings, which in itself is not a crime but was seized upon by local media. When the smoke cleared, he faced a federal charge for one count of illegal sale or transport of an assault weapon and state charges for two counts of having a firearm on unauthorized premises since the university had prohibited guns even with a permit.

Comical, let's arrest anyone who has newspaper clippings in their homes now! That'll stop mass shootings for sure!

http://www.guns.com/2014/12/22/student-w...nce-video/
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While having the clippings in and of itself us not a crime, how he had them certainly makes one wonder what his intent was and if you stop a person before they were about to follow through then you stopped them before they did something terrible.

But I agree, we are setting a terrible precedent with all this "pre-crime" crap. WAY too subjective and too easy to arrest anyone and charge them for it based upon individual assumption.
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Camper;159348 Wrote:While having the clippings in and of itself us not a crime, how he had them certainly makes one wonder what his intent was and if you stop a person before they were about to follow through then you stopped them before they did something terrible.

But I agree, we are setting a terrible precedent with all this "pre-crime" crap. WAY too subjective and too easy to arrest anyone and charge them for it based upon individual assumption.

I don't believe they found shit in his room. They never report stories like this accurately. Muzzle brakes get turned into "silencers", fireworks into IEDs etc. I think they had a narrative in their minds and they bashed a square peg in a round hole. I think they probably found a Cabelas flyer in a dusty corner and that got morphed and twisted into the "School shooting waiting to happen" story instead of the, "Our fucked up new gun laws ruined another otherwise lawful gun owner's life" story. That's beyond the fact that in a free state they would have had no right to search his home in the first place.
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Emoticon;159377 Wrote:
Camper;159348 Wrote:While having the clippings in and of itself us not a crime, how he had them certainly makes one wonder what his intent was and if you stop a person before they were about to follow through then you stopped them before they did something terrible.

But I agree, we are setting a terrible precedent with all this "pre-crime" crap. WAY too subjective and too easy to arrest anyone and charge them for it based upon individual assumption.

I don't believe they found shit in his room. They never report stories like this accurately. Muzzle brakes get turned into "silencers", fireworks into IEDs etc. I think they had a narrative in their minds and they bashed a square peg in a round hole. I think they probably found a Cabelas flyer in a dusty corner and that got morphed and twisted into the "School shooting waiting to happen" story instead of the, "Our fucked up new gun laws ruined another otherwise lawful gun owner's life" story. That's beyond the fact that in a free state they would have had no right to search his home in the first place.

I believe they found what they said, and while I TOTALLY agree they embellish they usually embellish what it was they found. I suspect he had them in a pile on the desk with a bunch of other research material and whatnot, but again...how they were arranged or put together, as well as the notes, would offer more insight into the bigger picture.

The reason they searched the room, was because he lived on campus in the dorms (judging on what the article said) so it was fully in their right to do so.

Therefore, he broke the laws carrying a gun around in his trunk, essentially using it as a storage locker, and by having the handguns on campus. That foolishness is on him.

The "OMG...searial death killer of babies...next adam laNZA@!!@#11" is on the media. That over the top sensationalism destroyed his life more than his stupidity, and IMHO that is the bigger crime.
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Camper;159391 Wrote:
Emoticon;159377 Wrote:I don't believe they found shit in his room. They never report stories like this accurately. Muzzle brakes get turned into "silencers", fireworks into IEDs etc. I think they had a narrative in their minds and they bashed a square peg in a round hole. I think they probably found a Cabelas flyer in a dusty corner and that got morphed and twisted into the "School shooting waiting to happen" story instead of the, "Our fucked up new gun laws ruined another otherwise lawful gun owner's life" story. That's beyond the fact that in a free state they would have had no right to search his home in the first place.

I believe they found what they said, and while I TOTALLY agree they embellish they usually embellish what it was they found. I suspect he had them in a pile on the desk with a bunch of other research material and whatnot, but again...how they were arranged or put together, as well as the notes, would offer more insight into the bigger picture.

The reason they searched the room, was because he lived on campus in the dorms (judging on what the article said) so it was fully in their right to do so.

Therefore, he broke the laws carrying a gun around in his trunk, essentially using it as a storage locker, and by having the handguns on campus. That foolishness is on him.

The "OMG...searial death killer of babies...next adam laNZA@!!@#11" is on the media. That over the top sensationalism destroyed his life more than his stupidity, and IMHO that is the bigger crime.

I would refer you to the case of Gregory Girard the prepper in Mass who was arrested for simply having a stockpile of weapons and prepper items and the way the POLICE went out of their way to try to vilify him and what happened there after the FACTS came out. They basically outright fabricated things about him to fit their narrative in order to make it seem like he was some kind of domestic terrorist rather than someone who was being singled out and attacked by an out of control Big Brother. The media definitely does have a large role in doing this, but in these vehemently anti-gun states I've seen many cases like this where the police themselves will go out of their way to make an arrest fit their narrative.

I do think him keeping his AR in his car was colossally stupid after they were made illegal in Conn, however if PA banned AR's would you really honestly expect all the people on this forum to abandon their "truck guns" because of an inherently unconstitutional piece of legislation?

BTW I have not seen anything in writing to indicate this guy lived in on-campus housing apart from his being a student at the university. I could be wrong, but I have found that many campuses as of late feel that they are entitled to exercise massive overreach into their student's lives for things that often take place off-campus.
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No victim, no crime.
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