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The Anti-Federalists Were Right
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Great read, he's a short piece from the article.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance106.html



"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."

~ James Madison, Federalist No. 45

History has shown this statement to be either wishful thinking or a deliberate falsehood. Regardless of which opinion you hold, the Anti-Federalists were right. They correctly predicted the unlimited power of a consolidated government under the Constitution. Not only were the Anti-Federalists right to a degree that they could never have imagined; I seriously doubt that the Federalists could have envisioned or would have approved of their new government becoming the monstrosity that it now is.

The U.S. Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787. Nine states were needed to ratify the new Constitution. On June 21, 1788, New Hampshire became the ninth state, and the Confederation Congress began making plans for the transition to government under the Constitution. Virginia ratified the document on June 25, 1788, and New York followed on July 26, 1788. On March 4, 1789 — 218 years ago yesterday — the new Constitution took effect, replacing the Articles of Confederation that had been in force since 1781. North Carolina did not ratify the Constitution until November 21, 1789, and Rhode Island not until May 29, 1790.

Although the arguments of the Anti-Federalists against the new Constitution were numerous and varied, there is one thing that underlies them all: The danger to liberty from a strong central government.
We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. - Patrick Henry

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You can read it for yourself.

http://www.utulsa.edu/law/classes/rice/c...ntifed.htm

Justin
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(09-17-2012, 04:22 PM)JustinHEMI Wrote: You can read it for yourself.

http://www.utulsa.edu/law/classes/rice/c...ntifed.htm

Justin

great link. thanks
We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. - Patrick Henry

[Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo]
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#4
I think had John Adams and some other Federalists lived ANOTHER 40 years (to 1866, in Adams' case), they'd of changed their mind on Federalism. Confused
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(09-17-2012, 04:38 PM)The War Wagon Wrote: I think had John Adams and some other Federalists lived ANOTHER 40 years (to 1866, in Adams' case), they'd of changed their mind on Federalism. Confused


Quite possibly. The problem is that for a true democratic republic to work, there must be an objective morality to which people adhere. Unfortunately, that morality seems to have been replaced with the morality of "I'm number one, the rest of you aren't mud". I think that this has helped create the government we have today and can explain why so many of our politicians act the way they do.
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I might disagree. It can be argued that problems may have started with insistence of adding the Bill of Rights. As the Federalists argued, the enumeration of rights leads to the belief that only those rights enumerated should be protected. I wonder if we would have been better off to have the assumption that all laws are not allowed that aren't directly provided for in the COTUS.

I can see both sides of the argument, but just food for thought.
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(09-17-2012, 05:25 PM)rmagill Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 04:38 PM)The War Wagon Wrote: I think had John Adams and some other Federalists lived ANOTHER 40 years (to 1866, in Adams' case), they'd of changed their mind on Federalism. Confused


Quite possibly. The problem is that for a true democratic republic to work, there must be an objective morality to which people adhere. Unfortunately, that morality seems to have been replaced with the morality of "I'm number one, the rest of you aren't mud". I think that this has helped create the government we have today and can explain why so many of our politicians act the way they do.

And that would be the "GREASY PALM CONSPIRACY" theory yes ?
I'm with you on that !
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