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The NRA - what is their next step?
#1
After watching the 23 XO's being signed by Ozumbo I feel betrayed by the NRA. Am I the only one who thinks the NRA didn't do enough?
Will the NRA fight the XO's or will they (like I think) just let it roll over them and do nothing about it or fight it?

How much of an influence does the NRA really have on congress?
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D10;68162 Wrote:After watching the 23 XO's being signed by Ozumbo I feel betrayed by the NRA. Am I the only one who thinks the NRA didn't do enough?
Will the NRA fight the XO's or will they (like I think) just let it roll over them and do nothing about it or fight it?

How much of an influence does the NRA really have on congress?

In all fairness, unless they ran up and yanked the pen from his hand and broke it, and then magiked the pens of the world all away, there was no way they COULD stop Obama from writing up EO's.

And many of those EO's will be hard to challenge, accepting the background checks might be the concession they have to make to stop an assault weapon & high capacity magazine ban.

The assault weapon and magazine ban cannot happen, no matter what.
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#3
What could they have done. Executive orders are created through the office of the President and the President alone. He can take the advice of anyone he wishes and he can ignore whomever he wants. The NRA came out of the Biden meeting and told the world that it was a sham and that the administration was not interested in opinions other than their own. What more could they do?
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#4
NRA has no fault here, as far as I can see.

Justin
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#5
WTF is an Ozumbo?
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#6
My question was........what will the NRA do next?

Will they blast every order that violates our second amendment rights or will they take the defeat lying down? Congress has a lot of 2nd amendment followers and believers and I wonder how many XO's won't make it.

Background checks is a thing I have a hard head in because the NRA already said it many times that they agree to have better background checks, but allowing congress to make them Universal would be something like standing in the middle of the street with your pants down your ankles.

I agree with the "porkmeister" that an Assault weapon ban or high capacity magazine ban "cannot" be enforced, but how far is the NRA willing to go to try and put a stop to that?
"The colors, the colors. Has anybody seen my good friend John?" Then he lit up a banana and he hung up.

Al Bundy.
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D10;68176 Wrote:I agree with the "porkmeister" that an Assault weapon ban or high capacity magazine ban "cannot" be enforced, but how far is the NRA willing to go to try and put a stop to that?

I didn't mean to say that it cannot happen, as in it doesn't stand a chance, I meant to say that it cannot be ALLOWED to happen. It must be blocked completely.

I think we'll lose the background checks, and since that will affect a small number of us, I'm willing to concede that IF WE HAVE TO to keep ARs and 30+ round mags.

We should have to give up nothing, IMHO, but limiting magazine capacity or banning specific firearms is FAR WORSE than getting a background check at a gun show or from a private sale.
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#8
Enrolling the other 120 million gun owners would be a start.
You want political clout ? You get big.
Sad that it takes such a threat to get a mere 250,000.
Although I guess the NRA has to make OBiden sales peeps of the year. Maybe they can pick up their awards at the Shot Show.
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Pocketprotector;68180 Wrote:Enrolling the other 120 million gun owners would be a start.
You want political clout ? You get big.

I talked to a guy yesterday, he would join the NRA in a heartbeat if the NRA came out against "Bushwackers" and other machine guns that nobody needs.

But he's a gun owner, he has a shotgun and an old .380 revolver, and you can't hunt with a semi automatic rifle anyway by god, so he knows what he's talking about.

Truth be told, I'm not sure we WANT all the gun owners joining the NRA and driving change from within. We want those who support 2A completely, not those who say they do and would seek to dismantle it.
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Camper;68182 Wrote:
Pocketprotector;68180 Wrote:Enrolling the other 120 million gun owners would be a start.
You want political clout ? You get big.

I talked to a guy yesterday, he would join the NRA in a heartbeat if the NRA came out against "Bushwackers" and other machine guns that nobody needs.

But he's a gun owner, he has a shotgun and an old .380 revolver, and you can't hunt with a semi automatic rifle anyway by god, so he knows what he's talking about.

Truth be told, I'm not sure we WANT all the gun owners joining the NRA and driving change from within. We want those who support 2A completely, not those who say they do and would seek to dismantle it.


I posted this on my FB;

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And the following conversation took place between some friends;

Friend 1) We need to be a nation of responsibilities, not a nation of rights. -Vine Deloria (paraphrased)

Friend 2) We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
Ronald Reagan

Friend 1) Then he got shot by someone who should have been nowhere near a gun. I'm sorry Bill, I like you, I like spending time with you, and I had FUCKING LOADS of fun shooting with you, but mine and your right to have fun should not be creating a more dangerous society, and I fear that it has been. Millions of sane, rational folks like us who like guns and covet them and collect them are part of the fire that's burning this country. There have been 3 shootings within a block of me since I moved to this part of Philly, all with guns which in my opinion no private citizen NEEDS to own. Wants, that's another story. My and your want should not trump the safety concerns of our children. The same day as Newtown, a guy went on a murderous rampage in a school in China. He only had access to a knife. He killed zero kids. No access to guns = zero dead children. I'm out, at this point. I'll still hunt, but I've got no interest in continuing to play with semi-auto toys that are way too prolific in our country.




I don't want friend 1 joining the NRA.

Justin
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