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They're here!! You got to leave, NOW!!!!
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After watching Red Dawn today, I was thinking about something.

If you woke up, and looked up into the air, and saw troops parachuting into your neighborhood, you realize you only have minutes to get your family out, what would you do?

Being realistic, standing up and fighting at this point and time isn't a real option. Your going to get creamed. It's you against a couple hundred troops. Your only smart option is to run!!!

You only have a couple minutes, maybe even seconds. To get your family and gear to your vehicle and flee if your going to get away before they lock your town down tight. Could you grab what you needed in a very short amount of time and get out to your vehicle and be gone quickly if you had too?

Is your gear set up that you would be able to run in grab it and go?

Or...

Is it scattered around thru the house, and it would take you a while to get it loaded up? Making you take to long, and finding yourself trapped.
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mtbkski;44590 Wrote:Being realistic, standing up and fighting at this point and time isn't a real option.

I think the odds of ever ending up in a 'realistic' situation to stand and fight are astronomical. If I can take one life before I give up mine, I'm good. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

I'd likely stay holed up in my home, as I think I'd have a better chance of getting a few more shots off than if I were out in the open.
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gnbrotz;44625 Wrote:I'd likely stay holed up in my home, as I think I'd have a better chance of getting a few more shots off than if I were out in the open.

This. Sometimes I think people put a little too much faith into the bug out plan, where exactly are you going to go where there aren't more of them parachuting in, or tanks blocking the roads, checkpoints, etc? If you aren't safe in your home then you aren't safe in your car either.

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#4
Shoot them in the face.
Soldats ! Faites votre devoir ! Droit au cœur mais épargnez le visage. Feu !
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#5
I would hopefully have the courage to act alone, buying some extra minutes for local US forces to organize and begin to respond. The early minutes of an invasion are the most sensitive to time delays fucking up the whole plan.

If you know what you're doing you can cause an immense amount of grief to an invading force, even by yourself. If you make one hit and run attack, and get an entire platoon coming after you, then that platoon is not accomplishing it's initial mission goals, instead having to chase you all over hell and creation.

Remember, even if you think of yourself as a citizen YOU are a member of the unorganized militia. It is your RESPONSIBILITY to defend this nation from a foreign power.

In a big urban area, you could hook up with the local police forces quite easily, augmenting their firepower. If facing foreign invasion, they will be happy to have you and your black rifles fighting along side them.

Anyone can get out that ole' scoped .30-06 and start sniping, drawing enemy forces into the woods or urban center to chase you.

There are numerous accounts of lone Iraqis fighting very successfully long term vs US forces in Iraq.

Google the term Juba.
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Valorius;44765 Wrote:I would hopefully have the courage to act alone, buying some extra minutes for local US forces to organize and begin to respond. The early minutes of an invasion are the most sensitive to time delays fucking up the whole plan.

If you know what you're doing you can cause an immense amount of grief to an invading force, even by yourself. If you make one hit and run attack, and get an entire platoon coming after you, then that platoon is not accomplishing it's initial mission goals, instead having to chase you all over hell and creation.

Remember, even if you think of yourself as a citizen YOU are a member of the unorganized militia. It is your RESPONSIBILITY to defend this nation from a foreign power.

In a big urban area, you could hook up with the local police forces quite easily, augmenting their firepower. If facing foreign invasion, they will be happy to have you and your black rifles fighting along side them.

Anyone can get out that ole' scoped .30-06 and start sniping, drawing enemy forces into the woods or urban center to chase you.

There are numerous accounts of lone Iraqis fighting very successfully long term vs US forces in Iraq.

Google the term Juba.

Where did the OP specify that the troops in the hypothetical scenario were foreign?
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Is that a serious question? He's talking about the movie Red Dawn. The troops in those movies were Foreign.

PS: Staying in your house would be suicide. One RPG, and you're done, as the whole house will burn.

Hit and run ambushes and not static defenses: definitely your best bet.

Paratroopers are actually quite lightly armed and armored compared to mechanized forces. And as they're falling, they are inherently disorganized when they first hit the ground. You can do the maximum damage to paratroop forces while they are falling/landing, before they get organized.
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(11-22-2012, 08:41 AM)Valorius Wrote: In a big urban area, you could hook up with the local police forces quite easily, augmenting their firepower. If facing foreign invasion, they will be happy to have you and your black rifles fighting along side them.

If you can find your local police.... and I'm not talking about being AWOL either. If something like that were to happen we would be going subversive. Taking out all types of public safety agencies would be a goal if the invaders. The big issue would be who would be organizing the "resistance".

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#9
I wait for the dawn.

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I live in the country. So, I'm probably staying put. Unless they end up landing in my backyard.

But in a suburb, or in the city. I just wondered if you would be better off heading out and trying to get away from the congested areas? Or, would you decide to hole up at home and fight.

Police Departments would be first targets in an invasion. And any good invasion, is going to block radio transmissions, so it isn't like they can communicate with other officers. You can't call your buddy, phones are down, including cell phones. So your on your own. Stand and fight, or, try to run for it?

Now, most of you probably live in homes that wouldn't keep a 22 round from coming thru the walls. So, your house isn't going to provide much cover. If military type of weapons were fired your way.

I know if I was to do it again, all my cinderblocks on the lower part of my house would have been filled with concrete at least six feet up from the ground, to give better protections from at least small arms fire. (Hope to stone the lower half of the house in the next year or two. That should help a bit.) Anything big and it is coming in anyway.

Have a buddy that works construction and we talked about this. He said they have built a couple homes that have hidden rooms and have put bulletproof walls at least on the lower 4 foot of the walls all around the house on the outside walls. But it isn't cheap stuff. http://secureallpanels.com/applications/residential/
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