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UN against recent states' votes for Marijuana
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It's a slippery slope. Feds won't make it legal. Under the influence is under the influence, doesn't matter in the eyes of the law. I know chronic smokers and stay away from them because of their stupidity
He'll the one guy called the state police to report a break in during the night. He got so high he forgot he made pizza in the middle of the night and blamed it on burglars. He is now doing time for being in possession of 10 pounds of home grown. I don't disagree that it shouldn't be legalized but don't make it sound like it's harmless
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pinhead1979;156567 Wrote:
RugerGirl;156557 Wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/1...GV20141112

Just FTR I am personally against the legalization of pot for recreational use.

Wait, you're okay with your gov't stripping people of their freedoms as long as they don't listen to an outside organization when making these decisions? I know you didn't want this to be a discussion of your beliefs, but I'm having a hard time following the logic. Shrug

I personally don't smoke weed, but I feel if someone wants to no one should be able to stop them. Guns are heavily restricted in some states, and in some cases completely illegal, all because someone thought they should be. If you're okay with taking someone else's rights away, you can't complain when they come for yours.

Well then, we need to start a new thread to define "fundamental human right" and "taking away". That or start a new thread discussing Libertarianism, I guess.

The Constitution defines gun rights. It does not define drug "rights" so that must be left up to the states. I'm more worried about people not having the right to pray in school or put up an American flag in their front window or wear a military shirt in school or chew a pop tart into an "L" shape or shoot off a 21 gun salute than I am about anybody's "fundamental human right" to get stoned. Shrug

And the topic of this thread is that it is none of anybody else's business what America does other than America.
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RugerGirl;156569 Wrote:
pinhead1979;156567 Wrote:Wait, you're okay with your gov't stripping people of their freedoms as long as they don't listen to an outside organization when making these decisions? I know you didn't want this to be a discussion of your beliefs, but I'm having a hard time following the logic. Shrug

I personally don't smoke weed, but I feel if someone wants to no one should be able to stop them. Guns are heavily restricted in some states, and in some cases completely illegal, all because someone thought they should be. If you're okay with taking someone else's rights away, you can't complain when they come for yours.

Well then, we need to start a new thread to define "fundamental human right" and "taking away". That or start a new thread discussing Libertarianism, I guess.

The Constitution defines gun rights. It does not define drug "rights" so that must be left up to the states. I'm more worried about people not having the right to pray in school or put up an American flag in their front window or wear a military shirt in school or chew a pop tart into an "L" shape or shoot off a 21 gun salute than I am about anybody's "fundamental human right" to get stoned. Shrug

And the topic of this thread is that it is none of anybody else's business what America does other than America.

Okay, so what I get from that statement is that the only rights one should be worried about are those outlined by the gov't in some document that the gov't hasn't followed since the 1700's. Furthermore, it's okay to pick and choose what someone else can own, as long as it's not something you want to own. I'm really not trying to nitpick this here, but you posted your feelings in public, they're subject to public scrutiny.

This type of thinking is what is wrong with the whole world these days. If someone doesn't like something they want it taken away. If someone is afraid of the consequences of owning something, it should be regulated and can only be used for certain purposes. Any argument against weed can be made about guns, basically. If one day someone from the gov't said "we will no longer interfere in the right to self defense" you would cheer them on. But when something that you don't use or own comes into play, you wouldn't bat an eye if they took it away. I don't do drugs, but I support people's right to do what they want to their own body as long as they don't harm anyone else. I loathe religion in any of it's forms, but I support people's right to do and think as they choose as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else. I don't believe in gov't but I support your right to have one, as long as it doesn't infringe on my natural rights.

So back to the original point... yes, I agree with you, it's terrible when someone who doesn't agree with you wants your rights taken away. The UN should mind it's own business, and so should everyone else.
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RugerGirl;156569 Wrote:
pinhead1979;156567 Wrote:Wait, you're okay with your gov't stripping people of their freedoms as long as they don't listen to an outside organization when making these decisions? I know you didn't want this to be a discussion of your beliefs, but I'm having a hard time following the logic. Shrug

I personally don't smoke weed, but I feel if someone wants to no one should be able to stop them. Guns are heavily restricted in some states, and in some cases completely illegal, all because someone thought they should be. If you're okay with taking someone else's rights away, you can't complain when they come for yours.

Well then, we need to start a new thread to define "fundamental human right" and "taking away". That or start a new thread discussing Libertarianism, I guess.

The Constitution defines gun rights. It does not define drug "rights" so that must be left up to the states. I'm more worried about people not having the right to pray in school or put up an American flag in their front window or wear a military shirt in school or chew a pop tart into an "L" shape or shoot off a 21 gun salute than I am about anybody's "fundamental human right" to get stoned. Shrug

And the topic of this thread is that it is none of anybody else's business what America does other than America.

Actually, it does. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The problem is that both the Federal government AND the UN think it's their business to rule and micromanage the lives and decisions of every individual, and makes mockery of the idea of Liberty and independence.
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