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10-09-2012, 01:49 PM
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/...s-and-ammo
Part of the article:
Quote:County President Toni Preckwinkle wants to introduce a "violence tax" on guns and ammunition to help plug a $115 million budget gap in 2013. Under the tax, guns and ammunition would cost more, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, but Preckwinkle isn't saying how much more just yet.....
"If we can tax cigarettes, it seems we can tax bullets and guns," said Chicago resident Cathryn Taylor. "But at the same time, I get the point that if people are buying the stuff illegally, then the tax doesn't matter because they aren't going through legal channels anyway."....
....No such tax exists in Illinois, experts say, but two bills that would create an explicit tax on ammunition are in consideration in the Illinois Legislature.
Elsewhere in the country, Tennessee has an ammunition tax, the Chicago Sun-Times reported. And right now, guns and ammunition sold across the country are subject to a federal excise tax that funds conservation projects. In Illinois, the local sales tax rate is applied to such purchases.
Preckwinkle's budget proposal is set to be unveiled Oct. 18, and an ammunition tax isn't the only potential money maker on the table. The board president reportedly wants to lease the top two floors of the County Building in Chicago's Loop for what she estimates could net at least $1 million a year for 10 years.
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I am certainly opposed to such a tax, but for the time that it is being discussed shouldn't it be called a Self-Defense tax?
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City / State: New Britain Township, PA
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You should be allowed a certain amount of tax-deductible purchases of guns and ammo per year. Like $1000 or something. By buying guns and ammo, you are helping to support the sovereignty of our state, and our nation.
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What about those that reload? Is that then taxed as well? What if you order it online?
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They won't make much, only about 100 legal guns in the whole county. 
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IANAL, but:
Couldn't it be argued that this is an attempt to regulate the purchase, possession, and use of firearms and ammunition? If this argument sticks, wouldn't this be a UFA violation? I know it would take a little work, but it seems like this argument could stick.
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They need to burn that shit hole called Chicago. What good has that place ever done?
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10-10-2012, 07:50 AM
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bigdawgbeav;21517 Wrote:What if you order it online?
A lot of legal hoops for that, although it's technically legal if the person you're buying it from (in person or online) has a copy of your Illinois firearms permit on file. Got family that live there, and they think it's right and proper to have to show a special form of identification just to buy bullets and were simply horrified that I could walk into walmart and buy loaded cartridges. Worst thing is that they're hunters.
I cry to think of how far Illinois has fallen thanks to Chicago and East Side St. Louis.
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rmagill;21730 Wrote:IANAL, but:
Couldn't it be argued that this is an attempt to regulate the purchase, possession, and use of firearms and ammunition? If this argument sticks, wouldn't this be a UFA violation? I know it would take a little work, but it seems like this argument could stick.
This is in Chicago, not PA, so the UFA does not apply. If a county in PA were to do the same thing, it would absolutely be a preemption violation.
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bac0nfat;21776 Wrote:rmagill;21730 Wrote:IANAL, but:
Couldn't it be argued that this is an attempt to regulate the purchase, possession, and use of firearms and ammunition? If this argument sticks, wouldn't this be a UFA violation? I know it would take a little work, but it seems like this argument could stick.
This is in Chicago, not PA, so the UFA does not apply. If a county in PA were to do the same thing, it would absolutely be a preemption violation.
I jumped over "Chicago" every time it was mentioned. 
So, I guess the PA UFA doesn't apply... 
Thanks.
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