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US cargo plane crash in Afghanistan kills 7
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Quote:KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A civilian cargo plane owned by an American company crashed at Bagram Air Field, north of the Afghan capital, soon after takeoff on Monday, killing all seven people aboard, the U.S.-led military coalition said.

The Taliban quickly claimed responsibility for downing the Boeing 747-400, but NATO said in a statement to The Associated Press that the Taliban "claims are false."

The coalition says the cause of the crash was being investigated by emergency crews that rushed to the site, but there was no sign of insurgent activity in the area at the time.

Capt. Luca Carniel, a coalition spokesman, said the aircraft crashed from a low altitude right after takeoff.

The plane — owned by National Airlines, an Orlando, Florida-based subsidiary of National Air Cargo — was carrying vehicles and other cargo, according to National Air Cargo Vice President Shirley Kaufman.

She said those killed were four pilots, two mechanics and a load master, who was responsible for making sure that the weight and balance of the cargo is appropriate.

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Looks like a stall to me. The way they floated down looks like a flat stall, he fought it all the way down too but at that height and lack of speed, good luck getting out of it.
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Yep, pilot error, wonder what the flaps were set at.
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Hell of a thing to see. Sad
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I read on a Weather guy's FB page it may have been partially caused by downdrafts from a nearby thunderstorm. Sad. I wouldn't jump, necessarily, to the conclusion of "pilot error" just yet....
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redeye202;99549 Wrote:Yep, pilot error, wonder what the flaps were set at.

His flaps are fully extended, you can see it just as he flares up and before they pancake in.
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I read on a Weather guy's FB page it may have been partially caused by downdrafts from a nearby thunderstorm. Sad. I wouldn't jump, necessarily, to the conclusion of "pilot error" just yet....

Early in the clip, you see that his port wing begin to climb, almost correct, then his starboard wing loses complete lift. He's got his rudder hard right, and he comes out of it, but by that time there is no space left to complete the recovery. This guy played it right, but the hand he got dealt was shitty to begin with. There was no chance but he played it out. A microburst can do that. That flight deck mustve been chaotic as hell.
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RugerGirl;99578 Wrote:I read on a Weather guy's FB page it may have been partially caused by downdrafts from a nearby thunderstorm. Sad. I wouldn't jump, necessarily, to the conclusion of "pilot error" just yet....
Early in the clip, you see the port wing is rolling up, then leveling, until the starboard wing loses total lift. He hits his rudder hard right and fights the right wing and does recover, but by that time he has no sky left. He had that 747 dancing, but he'd been dealt a shitty hand. If he was higher, he probably would've made it. A microburst can do that to you. That flight deck mustve been chaotic as hell.
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Spacemanvic;99602 Wrote:
RugerGirl;99578 Wrote:I read on a Weather guy's FB page it may have been partially caused by downdrafts from a nearby thunderstorm. Sad. I wouldn't jump, necessarily, to the conclusion of "pilot error" just yet....
Early in the clip, you see the port wing is rolling up, then leveling, until the starboard wing loses total lift. He hits his rudder hard right and fights the right wing and does recover, but by that time he has no sky left. He had that 747 dancing, but he'd been dealt a shitty hand. If he was higher, he probably would've made it. A microburst can do that to you. That flight deck mustve been chaotic as hell.

Oh, you're right, he does level it out at the very last second. Stinks. I know at regular airports they ground flights if there is a chance of those microbursts in the area, because supposedly there's not much you can do if one of those happens to hit you. You can see the dark clouds in the background so.... hopefully no media will give the pilot a hard time about this.
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They are now going with the idea that it was a load shift that caused the loss of center of gravity and basically dragged the aircraft into a stall.
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