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"Used" ammo.
#1
OK so let's say that you're selling factory ammo that you've never used.

Is it considered "new" and a fair price for you to ask is retail? Or, like anything else in life, once it hits your hands it's "used" and it's fair to ask less than retail?

I'm asking because before I make this guy an offer;

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_133/13056...r_FMJ.html

I want to make sure that I'm not out of line.



Right now, his HST is priced higher than I can get from SG Ammo.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/10...mo-p40hst1

And his AE is slightly less than I can get from SG Ammo.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/10...mmo-ae40r2


For me to want to buy ammo off of a private seller, then I have to be able to get it at substantial savings over just buying fresh from a dealer.

Am I out to lunch on that?

Justin
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#2
I'm pretty sure you already know this but when you pay retail there's things like tax, advertising, packaging, shipping, etc. That's why the value of just about anything else drops as soon as it sold to a consumer...you end up eating that cost. IMO, it's not worth the retail price regardless if it is an unopened box of ammo...I would come close with a nice round number but not retail.

I also believe in the rule, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay.
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#3
Maybe not substantial savings but some savings is not out of line. At this point ammo can be considered a commodity and as such should sell near or just under retail.

I also don't think it can be considered 'used' just because its own by a private person instead of a retailer.
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#4
Yeah that's why I put "used" in quotes, didn't know what else to call it. Smile

To me, if I couldn't get his HST for 100 off retail, I'd rather just pay retail. His private shipping would eat up whatever little savings there was anyway.

Commodity? How so? Ammo is widely available, at least where I shop for it. I still look for deals on the secondary market though.

Justin
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#5
By Commodity I did not mean scarce - I meant that it does not lose value going from hand to hand. If the seller is smart he would drop his prices a few bucks because like you said you can buy retail from another source for the same price so why risk a private sale. But as a product, ammo does not lose value like say a used car or older TV.
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Dave;145900 Wrote:Maybe not substantial savings but some savings is not out of line. At this point ammo can be considered a commodity and as such should sell near or just under retail.

I also don't think it can be considered 'used' just because its own by a private person instead of a retailer.

^that's my opinion too.
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Dave;145909 Wrote:By Commodity I did not mean scarce - I meant that it does not lose value going from hand to hand. If the seller is smart he would drop his prices a few bucks because like you said you can buy retail from another source for the same price so why risk a private sale. But as a product, ammo does not lose value like say a used car or older TV.

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I agree, i'm not talking half off deals, but I also don't expect retail+, as is with this seller.

Justin
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#8
One needs to remember that the reason he is selling it online is that the retailers I know will not take ANY ammunition to resell therefore the only way he can get any ROI for that ammo is to sell it online. There should be a discount and based on the information coming from the industry, numerous articles are claiming that a healthy price drop is imminent, it should be a decent discount.
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#9
His prices may reflect what he paid for the ammo originally rather than current market value. Just a theory. There are a few shops around me sitting on ammo they got last year that is priced accordingly.

His deal would be appealing if you could work out a trade or meet in person for an exchange but yeah otherwise you are better off buying retail.

Don't take a loss on that stash of 40 you are sitting on.
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#10
That is the danger of dealing with commodity like products - what you paid for it is meaningless to the market.

billamj;145945 Wrote:information coming from the industry, numerous articles are claiming that a healthy price drop is imminent, it should be a decent discount.

do you have more info on this?
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