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Vehicle found after man fatally shot in New Jersey mall carjacking
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Quote:Vehicle found after man fatally shot in New Jersey mall carjacking

A Range Rover stolen after a man was shot and killed in front of his wife Sunday evening during a carjacking at New Jersey mall has been found, police say.

The vehicle was found in Newark, its police department confirmed to Fox News, a city approximately 10 miles away from the scene of the shooting.

Authorities are still looking for two suspects who confronted the couple in the parking garage of the Mall at Short Hills in Millburn Sunday evening. The couple were getting into their 2012 silver Range Rover around 9 p.m. local time when two men approached and demanded the vehicle, The New York Post reported.

Officials say that victim, 30-year-old Dustin Friedland of Hoboken, was shot in the head when he resisted. His wife was not injured, but the men took off in the vehicle, acting Essex County Prosecutor Carolyn A. Murray said.

Friedland was pronounced dead at Morristown Medical Center at 11:45 p.m. local time Sunday.

"It obviously was a car with some value,” Murray said, according to the New York Post. "Our police department is out there and I’m sure they’re doing everything that needs to be done."

The mall, located approximately 20 miles west of New York City, was briefly placed on lockdown until authorities determined there was no danger. The mall had been kept open later than normal for holiday shopping.

Murray said there were no motives yet for the shooting, MyFoxNY.com reports.

Friedland was a lawyer who had worked recently at his family's HVAC company analyzing construction-related legal claims, according to his LinkedIn profile. Friedland's wife, Jamie Schare Friedland, is listed as an attorney specializing in landlord-tenant law at a firm in New York City. Both attended law school at Syracuse University, according to their online profiles.

A woman who answered the phone at Epic Mechanical in Neptune, N.J., declined to comment and said Friedland's father, who also works there, was not in the office. No one answered at several phone numbers listed for other relatives.

Sunday's encounter was the latest in a troubling pattern in Essex County, whose borders encompass crime-plagued Newark to the east as well as Short Hills and other affluent suburbs to the west. Carjackings have risen steeply in the past several years, leading local authorities to create a multi-agency task force three years ago after a spate of crimes that included brazen daytime attacks and the carjacking of a snowplow two days after a Christmas blizzard.

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Since this was New Jersey we (and the perps) can safely assume the victims were unarmed.

Ain't that a shot in the head.
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Obviously more gun control is the answer
The law? The law is a human institution...
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Quote:4 charged in NJ carjack execution of lawyer protecting his wife

Four men were arrested and charged with murder in the terrifying carjacking of a young New Jersey man in a mall parking lot, authorities said.

Bail was set at $2 million for Karif Ford, 31, Basim Henry, 32, and Kevin Roberts, 33, all of Newark, and Hanif Thompson, 29, of Irvington, in the point-blank shooting of Dustin Friedland, 30, as his wife looked on.

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http://nypost.com/2013/12/21/four-arrest...arjacking/
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"Always be aware of the people around you"

How the fuck is that gonna keep a bullet from entering your cranium?

Yeah I can see it now... you're "aware of the people around you" while the red laser dot is glowing on the back of your neck while you're inspecting an iPad Mini at the Apple Store.
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Again though with absurd bail amount. We should just throw the eight amendment out, no judge respect it and most people don't respect it unless they get accused of something they didn't do, then they will wish they had it.

$3 million dollars. Exactly how would these guys get their hands on that kind of money or any normal person? Heck even $10k. At most a judge should be able to do is look at their bank account and expenses. Then base it off of half of what they either have in the bank or a full months worth of living expenses. In the case of no bank account a full months worth of living expenses. In the presence, no more than half of what is in the account if that sum is greater than a months worth of expenses. And fuck bond. THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T say excessive bond. it should never be a consideration. Just because I can get bond for $2k on $10k bail doesn't mean squat, I should be able to post the bail in total. How many times have we had rulings on this. It shouldn't matter if it was a violent crime or not because until you are found guilty you're innocent and based on that bail should be reasonable. The intention is so you can understand the case the state is trying to make against you and form a reasonable defense. That isn't really possible while you're in jail and at one point and time in this country you didn't run out and get a lawyer to defend yourself, you did it yourself. I'd like to see that some back. It is far too sketchy out there with lawyers and judges and prosecutors all working together to just get cases through the system as fast as they can regardless of guilt or not.

Quote:EIGHTH AMENDMENT

AMENDMENT VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
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ExcelToExcel;129372 Wrote:Again though with absurd bail amount. We should just throw the eight amendment out, no judge respect it and most people don't respect it unless they get accused of something they didn't do, then they will wish they had it.

$3 million dollars. Exactly how would these guys get their hands on that kind of money or any normal person? Heck even $10k. At most a judge should be able to do is look at their bank account and expenses. Then base it off of half of what they either have in the bank or a full months worth of living expenses. In the case of no bank account a full months worth of living expenses. In the presence, no more than half of what is in the account if that sum is greater than a months worth of expenses. And fuck bond. THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T say excessive bond. it should never be a consideration. Just because I can get bond for $2k on $10k bail doesn't mean squat, I should be able to post the bail in total. How many times have we had rulings on this. It shouldn't matter if it was a violent crime or not because until you are found guilty you're innocent and based on that bail should be reasonable. The intention is so you can understand the case the state is trying to make against you and form a reasonable defense. That isn't really possible while you're in jail and at one point and time in this country you didn't run out and get a lawyer to defend yourself, you did it yourself. I'd like to see that some back. It is far too sketchy out there with lawyers and judges and prosecutors all working together to just get cases through the system as fast as they can regardless of guilt or not.

Quote:EIGHTH AMENDMENT

AMENDMENT VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Of course, you're totally right.
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I never thought about that with excessive bail, but you're absolutely right. Even though I had to read your post twice to get it through my head....if you have excessive bail, then you've already been assumed guilty.

While I am angry at this crime, and angry at whoever did it....you're absolutely right...any of us could have been arrested for it or something similar, and we would want our rights to defend ourselves.
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I will happily send them some holiday cheer! And by that I mean several feet of good hangin rope
tolerance for failure meter... LOW
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RugerGirl;129375 Wrote:I never thought about that with excessive bail, but you're absolutely right. Even though I had to read your post twice to get it through my head....if you have excessive bail, then you've already been assumed guilty.

While I am angry at this crime, and angry at whoever did it....you're absolutely right...any of us could have been arrested for it or something similar, and we would want our rights to defend ourselves.

There is an understanding that if the evidence is so strong, that if the likelihood of running is high, if you have a history of failure to appear, if you pose an obvious danger to others if you were out on bail, that you don't get bail. I find all that to be reasonable with concerns about the subjectivity of it. if that is the case regarding this situation, why let them post $3 million dollars or $13 trillion dollars worth of bail, well minus the hope that if the posted $13 trillion we would just pay off our federal debt and not mind that the person took off, we can catch them later Smile.

If it is a nonviolent accusation bail should ALWAYS be awarded unless they have a failure to appear for a crime (sans traffic violations)

Either the bail should be reasonable or the bail should not be.

Not this nonsense of $3 million to a guy that has never and probably(minus inflation) will never make $3 million dollars in his entire existence BEFORE taxes let alone 1/2 or a 1/3 of that, is just that nonsense..

I'd have to rob about 50 to 100 banks to come up with the $300k to post bond alone. Smile somehow I don't think you should say that to the judge though... Smile

Ten*K;129377 Wrote:I will happily send them some holiday cheer! And by that I mean several feet of good hangin rope

Sure, If they are guilty. I'll wait to find out if they are.
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