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Virginia to end concealed carry reciprocity
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vir...story.html

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Quote:By Laura Vozzella January 20 at 10:07 PM

RICHMOND — A Virginia Senate panel on Wednesday scrapped a raft of gun-control bills while advancing measures intended to expand gun rights.

Among the legislation was one, proposed by Sen. George L. Barker (D-Fairfax), that would have created a way for authorities to remove firearms from people deemed by a Circuit Court judge to be at “substantial risk” of injury to themselves or others.

“There are people slipping through the cracks who are a danger,” said Lori Haas, a gun-safety activist whose daughter was injured in the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre. “It is not meant to send somebody into your home unnecessarily.”

The Republican-led Senate Courts of Justice Committee easily defeated that bill and others aiming to tighten gun restrictions, sometimes on party-line votes, sometimes with support from a gun-rights Democrat, Sen. R. Creigh Deeds of rural Bath County. In so doing, members often voiced concerns about the constitutionality of the measures.

“Doesn’t it bother you that a person’s residence could be searched?” Sen. Richard H. Stuart (R-Stafford) said in relation to Barker’s bill. Stuart said he would prefer that people suffering ­mental-health crises be removed from their guns via a commitment process rather than having their guns removed from them.

“If we have the ability to get someone help that needs help,” Stuart said, “why do we need to search their home?”

The General Assembly is considering dozens of gun-related bills over the 60-day session that began last week. While guns have always been a hot-button issue in Virginia, this year’s battle mirrors the one raging at the national level, with despair over several high-profile shooting deaths mixing with fears of unchecked executive power. Last month, Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) announced that the commonwealth will no longer recognize many out-of-state concealed handgun permits, a move that coincides with a national push to circumvent legislatures opposed to tightening gun laws, enraging gun-rights enthusiasts.

Indeed, the Senate committee Wednesday also passed several bills aimed at expanding gun rights. The most sweeping, proposed by Sen. Richard H. Black (R-Loudoun), would do away with the need to obtain a government permit to carry a concealed weapon.

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#32
Pretty crazy if Virginia goes Constitutional carry and we will still have to get govt approval here in our state.
Also crazy that we also have to do ffl transfers for handguns and that sheriffs across the state get to make up their own rules on lctf's and nfa signoffs...
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#33
You guys might be interested in this. The Bradford county sheriff's office has always been pretty easy to deal with. Now, Chemung county in NY state and Bradford county in PA are allowing license holders to apply across state lines. . . . . .

http://www.mytwintiers.com/news/local-ne...-agreement

http://wnep.com/2016/01/13/ny-pa-countie...mit-issue/

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Right now, concealed carry permit holders in Bradford County are the only PA residents who can take advantage of this agreement.

"If some of the other counties that, you know, butt up to the state line are interested in it, we will enter the same agreement and work them. For now, it's for Bradford County residents only,” said Undersheriff Bill Schrum from Chemung County, New York.

Bradford County residents who receive a non-resident permit from Chemung County will be able to carry anywhere in New York state except for New York City. Chemung County residents would be able to carry anywhere in PA.
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#34
At least New York has one Sheriff doing the job they are supposed to do. Too bad it's just Bradford residents but it's a step in the right direction.


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sgtsandman;171996 Wrote:At least New York has one Sheriff doing the job they are supposed to do. Too bad it's just Bradford residents but it's a step in the right direction.

At least he left it open for other counties that lie on the state line to join in if they are interested.

It intrigues me that local law enforcement in many areas is largely rejecting anything that comes out of DC that infringes on the right to bear arms. Sheriffs are on record stating that they encourage citizens to arm themselves.
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halftrack;172083 Wrote:
sgtsandman;171996 Wrote:At least New York has one Sheriff doing the job they are supposed to do. Too bad it's just Bradford residents but it's a step in the right direction.

At least he left it open for other counties that lie on the state line to join in if they are interested.

It intrigues me that local law enforcement in many areas is largely rejecting anything that comes out of DC that infringes on the right to bear arms. Sheriffs are on record stating that they encourage citizens to arm themselves.

I think it's come to a point where law enforcement is no longer willing to just keep quiet anymore and just do what they are told. Many realize their limitations and the oath they took when taking their position. Most of the problems seem to be coming from politically motivated and appointed police chiefs and the mayors that hire them. The rank and file tend to me more constitutionally minded. Especially Sheriffs, State Constitutionally speaking, they are the only law enforcement officers mentioned. Not to say there shouldn't be other law enforcement organizations but they are the only ones recognized and empowered by the State Constitution.
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#37
It all makes sense, in that it is a demographics issue. America is NOT a country made up of red states and blue states. It is, however made up of red states with blue dots. The blue dots being the cities that control the whole red state. People in cities, generally speaking, because they are in the hands of gang banging thugs who do evil, want to see guns eliminated. Poor people, of good nature, can't afford a legitimate gun, so they want them all gone. There are enough cops in the city that more affluent folks, who don't have any place to shoot them handily, want them gone so the police can be more effective.

In the country 9-1-1 is useless. Everyone grew up shooting tin cans off a split rail fence, with a .22. You hunted, as a kid, with a .410 shotgun, and bought a 12 Ga, as soon as you bought your first pickup to hang it in the back window. The handgun came with the house, and more ammo as the kids came along, to defend it all.

With all of that said, the blue dot, or the spillover from Washington DC, into the VA countryside, is why Virginia is now what it is. The "Triangle" is killing NC. Philly and Pittsburgh are killing PA, New York City is killing NY, Baltimore is killing MD, on and on.

You either have to disperse the poor inner city masses into the countryside or perhaps populate the cities with cheap firearms and starting gun ranges/clubs. Maybe someone will start making the WWII equivalent of the sheet metal zip gun they populated the French countryside by air with?


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#38
Y'all can put VA back on your RADAR ...


http://bearingarms.com/mcauliffe-signs-g...y-bill-va/

Quote:Governor Terry McAuliffe signed a bill today that ensures that anyone with a concealed carry permit issued anywhere in the United States can carry in Virginia, in a stunning reversal of an attempt by Attorney General Merk Herring to sever reciprocity agreements with 25 states.

ETA: The law goes into effect July 1
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soberbyker;172900 Wrote:Y'all can put VA back on your RADAR ...


http://bearingarms.com/mcauliffe-signs-g...y-bill-va/

Quote:Governor Terry McAuliffe signed a bill today that ensures that anyone with a concealed carry permit issued anywhere in the United States can carry in Virginia, in a stunning reversal of an attempt by Attorney General Merk Herring to sever reciprocity agreements with 25 states.

ETA: The law goes into effect July 1

See--- not all Democrats are anti's.
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