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Visiting Colonial Philadelphia Museums/Buildings
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Tomorrow my girlfriend and I are doing the whole colonial Philadelphia tourist site seeing stuff. Needless to say I will be unarmed the entire time until I returned to my truck and retrieve my firearm from my hidden lock box. Does anybody else think it is bullshit we can't carry in fucking Independence Hall? Angry
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Sort of a leading question for a gun forum, no? Tongue

But good on you. Born and raised in Philly but did the tourist thing a few years ago. You will have fun and lean some cool stuff. I like when they ask where everybody is from and then get to you.
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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Dave;149100 Wrote:Sort of a leading question for a gun forum, no? Tongue

But good on you. Born and raised in Philly but did the tourist thing a few years ago. You will have fun and lean some cool stuff. I like when they ask where everybody is from and then get to you.

I always do the special exhibits at The Constitution Center and Franklin Institute, but I haven't done the whole "colonial" thing since 4th grade.

Like I said, the only thing that pisses me off is the whole no carrying in federal buildings. If it wasn't for that, I would have done it again, and multiple times, years ago. I know I'm being paranoid, but I hope I don't run into anything down there while unarmed. Again, no carrying at Independence Hall? Seriously? That's kind of ironic, huh?
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Yes, we all agree. But you will be just fine. Enjoy your day.
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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Philadelphia Patriot;149102 Wrote:Like I said, the only thing that pisses me off is the whole no carrying in federal buildings. If it wasn't for that, I would have done it again, and multiple times, years ago. I know I'm being paranoid, but I hope I don't run into anything down there while unarmed. Again, no carrying at Independence Hall? Seriously? That's kind of ironic, huh?

I'm sure it is because there is so much animosity and resentment of government workers, even by those who call themselves rational, that it is simply easier to ban them from the buildings to alleviate any spontaneous 'office rage' when a person is told they can't do something/have something/go somewhere they want by "someone who is paid by my taxes."

I think it also goes beyond safety of the employee, because it could lead to intimidation of government workers who may not be necessarily anti-gun people, but afraid of or intimidated by them especially if a strong willed person is emboldened by carrying a firearm (and we all know that carrying can instill confidence in us we may not otherwise have, simply by virtue of knowing we are equipped to protect ourselves). And depending on the power entrusted to the government worker, intimidating them could be extremely detrimental in a myriad of ways.

Plus the liability of the government workers if they are feeling threatened and end up shooting a citizen. This alone...my God, can you imagine how the 2A boards would light up in rage if a government employee behind a desk shot a tax paying citizen because they felt threatened? They wouldn't stand a chance in this court of public opinion, cops rarely do how in the world would they?

And what if the government employee was found at fault, the government would likely be sued or fined. The only way around that would be to tell the government employees THEY couldn't carry, but the public could. You don't think that would draw outrage from within?

It's just easier to ban them entirely from federal buildings and not worry about it.

Of course, NONE of the above will stop a determined bad guy hell bent on doing evil, but that is rare anyway.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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At least it's not Jersey and you can at least have it in your vehicle..... Can you carry a knife at all? I don't know Philly rules on that.
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If you're that concerned about it, learn a martial art. Granted this will take years to master but you will learn basic, effective defensive knowledge in less time. It's also a great workout. Ninja

They can't ban knowledge...yet.
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RugerGirl;149138 Wrote:At least it's not Jersey and you can at least have it in your vehicle..... Can you carry a knife at all? I don't know Philly rules on that.

In Philadelphia ....


Quote:CHAPTER 10-800. SAFETY


§10-820. Cutting Weapons in Public Places. [180]


(1) Definition.

Cutting Weapon. Any knife or other cutting instrument which can be used as a weapon that has a cutting edge similar to that of a knife. No tool or instrument commonly or ordinarily used in a trade, profession or calling shall be considered a cutting weapon while actually being used in the active exercise of that trade, profession or calling.

(2) Prohibited Conduct. No person shall use or possess any cutting weapon upon the public streets or upon any public property at any time.

(3) Penalty. The penalty for violation of this section shall be a fine of not less than three hundred (300) dollars and imprisonment of not less than ninety days.
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We got down there around noon, and it was PACKED down there!!! They ran out of tickets for the day to Independence Hall, and the line to see the Liberty Bell was a block long. Needless to say we left, got water ice, and played mini golf. We'll be coming back in the fall to do everything we planned to do when it is not as hot outside and not as crowded.

P89;149155 Wrote:If you're that concerned about it, learn a martial art. Granted this will take years to master but you will learn basic, effective defensive knowledge in less time. It's also a great workout. Ninja

They can't ban knowledge...yet.

I'm currently working on trying to master the Jedi mindset and use the force. I have not succeeded.....yet.Ninja
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Philadelphia Patriot;149169 Wrote:We got down there around noon, and it was PACKED down there!!! They ran out of tickets for the day to Independence Hall, and the line to see the Liberty Bell was a block long. Needless to say we left, got water ice, and played mini golf. We'll be coming back in the fall to do everything we planned to do when it is not as hot outside and not as crowded.

That's awesome. God bless America.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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