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what is up with the love of .380 in pa??
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I have noticed that a lot of shops have a huge selection of .380 pistols for sale. are they that much more popular due to carry rights or is there something that justifies the cost difference Between that and the 9mm ?
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#2
Most .380 pistols are great for deep concealment and there are lots of different options out there. .380 chamberings were some of the first main stream "pocket guns" with 9mm only coming on the scene recently in small pocket sized guns. I've never carried an LC9 or a p938 to compare but have debated switching just because it's way cheaper to feed.
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#3
Modern loadings of the .380 have made the once poo-pooed .380 a real self defense load, albeit at the bottom of the scale.
My LCP is never left behind when I go out, being loaded with Buffalo Bore rounds I feel it would get me or mine out of a jam if need be.

Even when I am carrying my G26 (as I am right now) my LCP is still in my front pocket.

As a matter of fact, it's kinda ironic that I logged on to the site right now as I'm just getting ready to leave to go look at a Sig .380.
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Mr_Gixxer;170295 Wrote:Most .380 pistols are great for deep concealment and there are lots of different options out there. .380 chamberings were some of the first main stream "pocket guns" with 9mm only coming on the scene recently in small pocket sized guns. I've never carried an LC9 or a p938 to compare but have debated switching just because it's way cheaper to feed.
If a round is cost prohibitive to shoot then your not going to shoot it as often or should I say as much as you should for an actual carry weapon. With .380 not being a major caliber I may have just discounted as a valid carry gun due to bias.
39Flathead;170297 Wrote:Modern loadings of the .380 have made the once poo-pooed .380 a real self defense load, albeit at the bottom of the scale.
My LCP is never left behind when I go out, being loaded with Buffalo Bore rounds I feel it would get me or mine out of a jam if need be.

Even when I am carrying my G26 (as I am right now) my LCP is still in my front pocket.

As a matter of fact, it's kinda ironic that I logged on to the site right now as I'm just getting ready to leave to go look at a Sig .380.

For handgun calibers I have looking at 9mm 40 S&W and 45ACP for the most part due to common availability. So far I have been leaning towards a G19 or a G22 as a 3 season carry gun. I may look into a pocket pistol later or just bring back the Hawaiian shirt style.
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.380 isn't cost prohibitive any more than .45 is. Both are around 35 cents a round.

I carry both. I shoot 1,000's of rounds of both. In my back yard.
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I was in a men's room in Dickson City the other day. Someone had written on the wall, 'For a good time try a Glock Model 42.' Me? I'm positive that I wouldn't want to fight for my life with anybody's 380 Auto. 9 x 19mm is absolutely as small as I'm willing to go on a primary.
L'enfer c’est les autres, et les choses terribles qu'ils font!'  -  Jean-Paul Sartre  
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I'm positive I wouldn't want to fight for my life with any pistol caliber. Since I can't carry my EBR comfortably every day I'll take whatever I can and hope it's enough to get me to my EBR.

.380 fits nearly every wardrobe and is a compromise. It also makes a great backup of your backup of your backup. Hell, I've been toying around with the idea of those .22 derringer just to have more options.

The first rule of any gunfight should be to have a gun. Trying to understand everyone's choice of caliber is pointless and if someone thinks one caliber isnt enough I'd love to them stand in front of one to prove it.
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No, having a gun is a given! The first rule of gunfighting is to survive; and forethought is often better than hindsight. Some live, some die, and some opinions are just plain better than others. (Although on internet gun forums all different sorts of nonsensical ideas seem to fly; and none of the aforementioned things seem to matter - On internet gun forums, that is!)
L'enfer c’est les autres, et les choses terribles qu'ils font!'  -  Jean-Paul Sartre  
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Of course, I've been in lots of gunfights but I usually figure the best solution is to tailor my carry gear around the perceived threat level of a given situation. Most times I'm comfortable with just a .380, sometimes I feel a full sized .45 should be an option as well. There may even be a time where an EBR should be carried say if State College and other cities becomes Paris for example.

Back to the original question though, .380 has and continues to be a caliber with the most semi auto pocket sized guns available which is why I think it's popular all over the free US (not just PA).
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psycosteve;170300 Wrote:
Mr_Gixxer;170295 Wrote:Most .380 pistols are great for deep concealment and there are lots of different options out there. .380 chamberings were some of the first main stream "pocket guns" with 9mm only coming on the scene recently in small pocket sized guns. I've never carried an LC9 or a p938 to compare but have debated switching just because it's way cheaper to feed.
If a round is cost prohibitive to shoot then your not going to shoot it as often or should I say as much as you should for an actual carry weapon. With .380 not being a major caliber I may have just discounted as a valid carry gun due to bias.
39Flathead;170297 Wrote:Modern loadings of the .380 have made the once poo-pooed .380 a real self defense load, albeit at the bottom of the scale.
My LCP is never left behind when I go out, being loaded with Buffalo Bore rounds I feel it would get me or mine out of a jam if need be.

Even when I am carrying my G26 (as I am right now) my LCP is still in my front pocket.

As a matter of fact, it's kinda ironic that I logged on to the site right now as I'm just getting ready to leave to go look at a Sig .380.

For handgun calibers I have looking at 9mm 40 S&W and 45ACP for the most part due to common availability. So far I have been leaning towards a G19 or a G22 as a 3 season carry gun. I may look into a pocket pistol later or just bring back the Hawaiian shirt style.
I would consider the G26. It will take 10+1 as it comes from the factory, 12+1 with a Pearce extension, 15+1 with a G19 mag inserted, 17+1 with a G17 mag, 30+ with a G18 mag and 50+ with a silly Korean drum mag.
I use the slip over grip adapters when using G19 mags but it's not a necessity.
The G26 is my 4 seasons firearm.
Mr_Gixxer;170301 Wrote:.380 isn't cost prohibitive any more than .45 is. Both are around 35 cents a round.

I carry both. I shoot 1,000's of rounds of both. In my back yard.
Same here, for a while it was hard to find, but now it's all over again, all three shops I was in today had plenty in stock as did Wally World.
Cost is equal as well just like you said.
Stinger;170303 Wrote:I was in a men's room in Dickson City the other day. Someone had written on the wall, 'For a good time try a Glock Model 42.' Me? I'm positive that I wouldn't want to fight for my life with anybody's 380 Auto. 9 x 19mm is absolutely as small as I'm willing to go on a primary.
I'm not going to get into specifics, but there are places I pocket carry my LCP, I do so because I need to deep conceal, no 9mm, even a LC9 is going to cut it in these instances, so it's the LCP with it's Buffalo Bore rounds.
The 100gr hardcast lead +P Buffalo Bore round surpasses standard 38Special rounds in "power" (according to Buffalo Bore) and I've fired enough of it to "feel" this as anecdotal evidence.
Would I always like to have a 9mm? Sure, but it's just not practical or possible all the time.
If it were I'd be toting around one of my Beretta 92's with a 20rnd Mec-Gar filled with Fiocchi 124gr HTP's or the 5.7 with 30rnds of super fast .22rounds.
Mr_Gixxer;170308 Wrote:Of course, I've been in lots of gunfights but I usually figure the best solution is to tailor my carry gear around the perceived threat level of a given situation. Most times I'm comfortable with just a .380, sometimes I feel a full sized .45 should be an option as well. There may even be a time where an EBR should be carried say if State College and other cities becomes Paris for example.

Back to the original question though, .380 has and continues to be a caliber with the most semi auto pocket sized guns available which is why I think it's popular all over the free US (not just PA).
Again, I agree, if I were seriously concerned about my safety a rifle would be my choice of firearm.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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