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what is up with the love of .380 in pa??
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(11-14-2015, 06:18 PM)Mr_Gixxer Wrote: I'm positive I wouldn't want to fight for my life with any pistol caliber. Since I can't carry my EBR comfortably every day I'll take whatever I can and hope it's enough to get me to my EBR.

.380 fits nearly every wardrobe and is a compromise. It also makes a great backup of your backup of your backup. Hell, I've been toying around with the idea of those .22 derringer just to have more options.

The first rule of any gunfight should be to have a gun. Trying to understand everyone's choice of caliber is pointless and if someone thinks one caliber isnt enough I'd love to them stand in front of one to prove it.

The best saying I've ever heard is that a pistol is for when you aren't expecting trouble. A rifle is for when you are.

Any firearm is better than nothing but nothing performs better than a high powered rifle outside of say maybe high explosives or something bigger but since the average Joe generally can't get anything bigger than a rifle...



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I have yet to find a 9mm that is as easy to conceal as my Sig P238. And some 380s are even slimmer.
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#13
As gixxer and flathead said there are lots of affordable pocket guns in 380 which lends to its popularity. An lcp was the first pocket gun I bought and I still carry it as a bug or for deep concealment some times. My little beretta has taken on that role more lately, but the lcp still gets some love tooWink. I always have a pocket gun on me just because they're easy to carry. I throw one in my pocket when I get up and it stays there, whether I carry another or not.

Gixxer,
A word on derringers

If you are going to get one go bigger than a .22. The size difference between the .22 models and the center fire ones is negligible. I have one of the large frame cobras and once you buy it you can get different barrels to switch calibers as well. Get one in something you already shoot, like 380 and it is more cost effective. I have 380 and 38 special barrels for mine. It goes bang every time, but isn't accurate past about 10 feet. I usually just leave mine in the pocket of my bibs as a beater barn gun, since it was cheap and there's very little that can get screwed up if it gets dirty. Let me know if you ever want to try one out. I'll let you shoot some through mine.
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RL Suehr;170318 Wrote:As gixxer and flathead said there are lots of affordable pocket guns in 380 which lends to its popularity. An lcp was the first pocket gun I bought and I still carry it as a bug or for deep concealment some times. My little beretta has taken on that role more lately, but the lcp still gets some love tooWink. I always have a pocket gun on me just because they're easy to carry. I throw one in my pocket when I get up and it stays there, whether I carry another or not.

Gixxer,
A word on derringers

If you are going to get one go bigger than a .22. The size difference between the .22 models and the center fire ones is negligible. I have one of the large frame cobras and once you buy it you can get different barrels to switch calibers as well. Get one in something you already shoot, like 380 and it is more cost effective. I have 380 and 38 special barrels for mine. It goes bang every time, but isn't accurate past about 10 feet. I usually just leave mine in the pocket of my bibs as a beater barn gun, since it was cheap and there's very little that can get screwed up if it gets dirty. Let me know if you ever want to try one out. I'll let you shoot some through mine.

Not to derail this thread but I forgot what I was thinking about when I said .22 derringer. What I meant to say was I really wanted one of these .22 mag mini revolvers like this one from NAA...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VCZQ3F9vMGg


As far as .380 goes I like those LCP's, never had a malfunction with mine and I treated it lIke a red headed step child. I recognize there was a .380 craze for a while when the P3AT and the LCP came out which is why you really see a lot of .380's out there. Today there are so many options for carrying "9mm short".

Biggest thing that may make me switch to a p938 is ammo availability. Just look back at the post Sandy hook days and you couldn't find .380 anywhere for about 10 months. 9mm however seemed to do better not falling off the face of the earth and becoming available widespread more quickly. 20-25 cents a round is a big factor as well!
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I had an LCP with CT and loved the concealability of it...but I could not shoot that thing, even with an extended grip. Must just be something about the way I held my trigger finger, but that gun bit me every time. After 2-3 mags, I would be bleeding. So I upgraded to a P238. Have only had one time at the range with it so far, but I like how it shoots. Going to be heavier to conceal though, plus it's my first single action carry piece.

I like my LC9 but I don't wear it except rarely in a carry handbag. I only wear .380's. Actually I have gotten lazy about carrying lately, and need to fix that. Sad
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#16
A buddy is selling me his NAA .22Mag, NIB for $175.
I just have to wait until we can get our times squared up to do the transfer.
Stupid PA handgun laws...

I have a C&R and can get guns shipped to my door from Arizona or Florida but I cannot just go buy a dinky .22Mag from a buddy without showing my papers to the man.

This won't be a carry piece, just a novelty item.
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#17
It might not be a popular answer, but... Lots of new first time gun owners out there, many of which want one "just in case", but don't know much about them. As I have been asked many times, of those who don't want to spend a whole lot, "I was thinking of getting this .22..." After they are repeatedly told it's not the preferred personal carry piece, they are opting for the .380. Back in the day, it was the .32. People carried them as "boot" or "pocket" guns, often referred to as "Pimp guns", as a hideaway. They are inexpensive and at 5 feet (self defense distance) are very effective.


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#18
My mom had a .25 ACP (at least I think it was a .25) for the longest time before she got a .357 revolver and put .38 Special ammo in it.

The way I look at it, especially for new people, go small and let them get comfortable. Let them try bigger stuff from there and stop where it is no longer comfortable or they can't handle it well. You don't want to scare them away, just move them up to the most effective round they are comfortable and proficient with. If they feel they need to step back down for whatever reason, that's their choice and freedom. They have to carry it and live with it. If it's too big, they won't do either. I would rather they have something than nothing.
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You can do serious damage with a .22 at close range. You would have to have a pretty serious bad guy to ignore being shot by one, especially if surprised by a woman. The exception would be some dude on LSD which is a whole 'nother level, anyway.

If that pastor's wife in Indiana had had a German Shepherd and a .22, she would probably be alive today.

.380 is even better, and it goes up from there. But I know I sure wouldn't stand in front of a .22 being shot. That's just me.
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Problem with a .380 mousegun and a new shooter is that it is probably going to scare them off due to the snappy recoil and the common problem of getting bitten by the slide.

My ex-gf wanted a handgun to keep in the house but also to carry when she felt the need.
I let her try a few of my guns and then borrowed a couple for her to try and she decided on the SR9C after initially wanting a .380 because "someone" told her it was a good choice for "women".
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