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Open Carry has never been illegal in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, not since the beginning of time and the invention of firearms and God willing it will never be. Philadelphia, however, may have had such a statute of it's own on the books prior to the 1996 Uniform Firearms Act, though I've never seen it.
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steelcityk9cop;16046 Wrote:
bigdawgbeav;15830 Wrote:There never has been a law against OC, that's why it's legal. Laws make things illegal. No Law = Legal.

For years OC would get someone cited for disorderly conduct. Just like giving someone the finger would. It took the courts saying, "no that's protected conduct" to make it stop on both accounts.

Rough estimate on when that occurred?
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My guess is the landings at Plymouth Rock and down at Jamestown.

I believe people were allowed to open carry before the Declaration of Independence was signed.

It was at that point they actually put in down on paper to give the liberals nightmares.

There is no law saying OC it is legal.

OC is legal because there is no law saying it is illegal.

God bless!!

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mrjam2jab;16477 Wrote:
steelcityk9cop;16046 Wrote:For years OC would get someone cited for disorderly conduct. Just like giving someone the finger would. It took the courts saying, "no that's protected conduct" to make it stop on both accounts.

Rough estimate on when that occurred?

I don't have any idea when the ruling was or the case name. It was presented as part of a MPOETC legal update sometime in the early 2000's.
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Pistol Packin Preacher;16486 Wrote:My guess is the landings at Plymouth Rock and down at Jamestown.

I believe people were allowed to open carry before the Declaration of Independence was signed.

It was at that point they actually put in down on paper to give the liberals nightmares.

There is no law saying OC it is legal.

OC is legal because there is no law saying it is illegal.

God bless!!

PPP

Understand that there are tons and tons of situations that are "illegal" even though the the activity itself isn't specifically defined as a crime in the crimes code. For instance if I were to come outside and take a pee all over the side of your car I would get arrested. There is no crime listed that specifically prohibits this conduct but there are other crimes against society that would be applied to cover this situation.

Once I was arrested I would have to take my case up the court ladder until the state superior or state supreme court determined that my peeing on your car was constitutionally protected like OC was.

Back in the mid 90's when I started in policing I was told by the "old timers" that this was how you handled guys walking around with guns.... you cited them for disorderly conduct for creating public alarm and take their guns as evidence until their hearing was over. I never saw it happen back then but from what I understood back then this was the common way of dealing with OC in Southeastern Pennsylvania back then. Its probably true based on the slow change in and around Philly that you guys are still seeing.
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