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Why Is Philadelphia's School System Always Broke And Begging for Money
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Explained:

http://www.philadelinquency.com/?p=3257

Schools are socialized goods we expect local governments to provide. Parents "buy" schools when they buy real estate and they are more than willing to overpay and subject themselves to higher rates of tax in return for what they perceive as a justified reward [a kid less likely to turn into one of Andy Reid's kids].

For quite a number of PA towns the school itself is what keeps the town going (real estate types call these "bedroom communities"). There's no real industry, just parents in search of a good school and are willing to plant their butt there while they draw income from the outside inward to the town, which props up the town's services and funds the school.

Texas's system socializes funding for what is essentially a socialized good anyway, yet it leaves control over school policy independent of muni and county governments and it stays hyperlocal [no citizen in Philadelphia has any remotely any say in how public schools are run, and the state installs the governance board. We have no elections.]

Philly's population drain and property value losses, combined with a system built up for twice as many kids than use it now, loads of fallow buildings, extravagant top salaries to "education experts" who file in and out of the system promising turnarounds but deliver little to nothing == a broke school system that always begs for money.

The only real long-term solution is to destroy the monolithic school district, redraw catchments for smaller districts, equitize state funding and encourage property values to climb in the city.

Parents will flock to an urban school and drive up real estate prices just like they do in a suburb. Even stand in line in freezing temperatures to enroll their kids and live in broom closets. Witness:
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local...1-21bhpenn

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Not understanding this macroeconomic behavior is why so many liberals and conservative politicians fail so miserably at "fixing" the schools.
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#2
They understand totally. It's their own personal piggybank funded by the legal power to take everything in your wallet.

Socialism = politicians amusement park until OPM runs out
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Pocketprotector;115369 Wrote:They understand totally. It's their own personal piggybank funded by the legal power to take everything in your wallet.

Socialism = politicians amusement park until OPM runs out

This.

Don't make the mistake of believing that socialism is for the benefit of anybody other than those collecting the money.
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(08-15-2013, 08:21 AM)Pocketprotector Wrote: They understand totally. It's their own personal piggybank funded by the legal power to take everything in your wallet.

Socialism = politicians amusement park until OPM runs out

Actually the idea to eliminate property taxes in PA and replace it with hikes in income and sales taxes is just the same centralized mechanism. Who collects PA income taxes and sales taxes?

Guess who will be in control of the redistribution of funding to the schools across PA?


It's basically the same thing as Robin Hooding real estate receipts.

Townships and cities will be 1,000% against it because most places split real estate taxes with the municipality. Texas diverts all property tax revenue to schools. County maintenance charges are added to school tax bills but the school forwards that money to the county.
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(08-15-2013, 09:09 AM)csmith Wrote:
Pocketprotector;115369 Wrote:They understand totally. It's their own personal piggybank funded by the legal power to take everything in your wallet.

Socialism = politicians amusement park until OPM runs out

This.

Don't make the mistake of believing that socialism is for the benefit of anybody other than those collecting the money.

If you went to a public school you went through the socialized system. Same if you graduated from a state owned college. Catholic schools and other privates of course allow you to stick to your private market principles, but you don't get a credit off your property taxes for enrolling your kids in private.

If such a credit system existed you'd see coveted suburban schools get destroyed and turn into Philly schools. Only this time the losers would be mostly PA's non urban lower middle income white population who doesn't make enough cash to send their kids to private.
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ArcticSplash;115391 Wrote:
(08-15-2013, 08:21 AM)Pocketprotector Wrote: They understand totally. It's their own personal piggybank funded by the legal power to take everything in your wallet.

Socialism = politicians amusement park until OPM runs out

Actually the idea to eliminate property taxes in PA and replace it with hikes in income and sales taxes is just the same centralized mechanism. Who collects PA income taxes and sales taxes?

Guess who will be in control of the redistribution of funding to the schools across PA?

It's basically the same thing as Robin Hooding real estate receipts.

Townships and cities will be 1,000% against it because most places split real estate taxes with the municipality. Texas diverts all property tax revenue to schools. County maintenance charges are added to school tax bills but the school forwards that money to the county.

I can only imagine how much worse the schools could get if 100% of the funds collected were sent to the school systems.

I think it would help if the district of Philadelphia would stop turning their schools into prisons, cut the salaries of the administrators, and weed out the teachers and teaching methods that are ineffective.

how ridiculous is it that the top administrator is getting paid something like $500k/year to oversee a failing school system...one that is so broke that it cannot even afford enough books for each kid in the classroom?

ask me how I know. Wink
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Again they are not gonna give up their toys.
Give people the option of vouchers and then the Public Schools have to compete or disappear

Exactly why they oppose it. The Feifdoms will go away.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
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The only fear I have with the voucher system is that then I would be concerned that the "vouchers", being funded with tax dollars, would then give the government extra control over private schools. The main reason parents use private schooling is precisely to AVOID excessive government control.

Education money is SO wasted. They don't take care of the money like private systems do. Private schools use every dollar wisely, because they have to. Public schools don't care, so they just squander it, and they have MORE than private schools do, afaik....
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#9
You wanna know why they are broke? Because that rogue's gallery that calls themselves the city council have consistently bilked the system for huge amounts of money, including pay increases, retiring for a day... work two years and retire for a day... rinse and repeat till you draw multi million dollar pension plans, and the fact that one decade ago, 6 cents on the tax dollar went to fund city pensions... and now it's just over twenty... to the tune of a half billion dollars annually. THERE'S YOUR MONEY GAP Amazing that they voted themselves so much more money while the tax base is suffering from a stagnant economy and ultra burdensome regulations for anyone seeking to start new businesses in the city.

Amazing that Bala Cynwyd is right next door but is absolutely booming. Philly government is a tumor that has outweighed the body it inhabits.

If the people of Philthydumpia want better lives for their children, the should start by pulling down City Hall, and running Nutter and his cronies out of town on the SEPTA express rail. And maybe the DA that seems to orefer letting hardened violent criminals back on the street with no jail time.

Pretty much just watch Law Abiding Citizen and stop it about 5 minutes from the end.
tolerance for failure meter... LOW
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#10
Philadelphia schools are discipline centers, not educational centers. There is a reason why people send their kids to private schools, live in the suburbs, home-school, or sacrifice to live in one of the few areas of the city where the schools aren't crap.

NONE of it has anything to do with how well a school is or is not funded by tax dollars, it has everything to do with the class of people that live in the neighborhoods/areas where the schools are.

You cite Texas as the model, but I have a friend who lives in Houston who tells me that the schools are either very good or very terrible based upon the area of the city the students are drawn from.

Until you fix the problems with the home/parental life of the students, there is nothing that can be done to fix an ailing school.

When my wife taught in 3rd grade at a Norfolk high-risk elementary school, nearly every student was poor--and she could tell the ones who had the parents/parent/grandparent raising them who cared and were involved, and the ones who didn't mind their 8 year olds dressing like whores or letting them play Grand Theft Auto Vice City while mom/grandmom entertained a new 'uncle'.
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