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Why will there be an election in Nov???
#1
I am not a tin foil hat wearer of any stripe.
But what makes anyone think that there will be an election in November? And if there is one, and the election goes to Romney do you really think he will be inaguarated?
I know the type of politician Barrack is, I grew up with them. The socalist/communist forces in this country have waited most of their entire adult lives to get the US to this point of failure. And I know that they will stop at nothing now to preserve their power, and to have their worker's paradise enacted here.
Terrorists going through the Mexico/US border.
Muslim Brotherhood operatives seeded all through levels of domestic federal agencies and intel agencies.
What do they have to lose, and what do they have to gain if Barrak is not re-elected?
I am betting on a 'dirty bomb' or some other terrorist activity similar in scope to 9/11 just prior to or just after election day. Perfect time to delcare martial law, void the election and steam roll their agenda across this country.
Tin foil hat time anyone?
Or am I not as crazy as I feel for thinking such an event can happen, just to keep 'hope and change' going strong?
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#2
I just don't see it. For every Obama supporter within various federal LE agencies, there's at least 5 that are conservative. It would require a level of subterfuge and conspiracy that would be all but impossible. A good many federal LEOs are prior military and are strongly patriotic. The most I see coming from Obama is some "wag the dog" scenario where we suddenly care that Iran has nukes, sometime in Oct. Some "intel" that Iran was actively working to get a bomb detonated on US soil so we had to act. Pump up the patriots, do some chest thumping and keep telling everybody to look over here, don't worry about the economy over there. It's not important, we're at war.
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(09-07-2012, 10:28 PM)unclejumbo Wrote: I just don't see it. For every Obama supporter within various federal LE agencies, there's at least 5 that are conservative. It would require a level of subterfuge and conspiracy that would be all but impossible. A good many federal LEOs are prior military and are strongly patriotic. The most I see coming from Obama is some "wag the dog" scenario where we suddenly care that Iran has nukes, sometime in Oct. Some "intel" that Iran was actively working to get a bomb detonated on US soil so we had to act. Pump up the patriots, do some chest thumping and keep telling everybody to look over here, don't worry about the economy over there. It's not important, we're at war.

I'm sorry I have to say this, but you are showing your age a little. The younger guys in the military, and the Officers' Corps, and to the little extent that I have known the police, have changed quite a bit going back even as far as 10 years. It's basically turned completely around. Patriotic means domination over the population and if you aren't doing anything wrong then you shouldn't worry about it.
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(09-07-2012, 10:39 PM)Laplace Wrote:
(09-07-2012, 10:28 PM)unclejumbo Wrote: I just don't see it. For every Obama supporter within various federal LE agencies, there's at least 5 that are conservative. It would require a level of subterfuge and conspiracy that would be all but impossible. A good many federal LEOs are prior military and are strongly patriotic. The most I see coming from Obama is some "wag the dog" scenario where we suddenly care that Iran has nukes, sometime in Oct. Some "intel" that Iran was actively working to get a bomb detonated on US soil so we had to act. Pump up the patriots, do some chest thumping and keep telling everybody to look over here, don't worry about the economy over there. It's not important, we're at war.

I'm sorry I have to say this, but you are showing your age a little. The younger guys in the military, and the Officers' Corps, and to the little extent that I have known the police, have changed quite a bit going back even as far as 10 years. It's basically turned completely around. Patriotic means domination over the population and if you aren't doing anything wrong then you shouldn't worry about it.
I didn't retire but 18 months ago. While I was never in the military, many of the new guys coming on had been. Party politics still plays a large roll in attitude. The Patriot Act would have met with a lot more opposition if a Dem had been behind it. I talked to a lot of guys and they supported it because Bush was a "good guy" and it was to get terrorists. I reminded them that Bush was not going to be POTUS forever and that the next guy might decide the gun owners were the danger. (how prophetic)


The guys, young and old, believe strongly in freedom on the whole. I will be the first to admit that they often lose that focus when it comes down to the individual. Then it's about getting the bad guy and most cops, especially shiny new ones, have a heroic knight vision of themselves. You'd be truly surprised to find out how strong the fear of government sentiment is among LEOs that are politically aware. Like other groups of 20 somethings, you'll find a good amount of political ignorance with the young ones but they still aren't Dems/Liberals for the most part.
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(09-07-2012, 10:39 PM)Laplace Wrote: I'm sorry I have to say this, but you are showing your age a little. The younger guys in the military, and the Officers' Corps, and to the little extent that I have known the police, have changed quite a bit going back even as far as 10 years. It's basically turned completely around. Patriotic means domination over the population and if you aren't doing anything wrong then you shouldn't worry about it.


And especially since military service has become just another entitlement program. Pay for college. Get health insurance. Get a lifetime pension retiring at 38 years old. Signing bonuses. Kids don't join the military for the right reasons any longer. They join because it's an income stream - and a pretty lucrative one at that.
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(09-09-2012, 11:49 AM)ehidle Wrote:
(09-07-2012, 10:39 PM)Laplace Wrote: I'm sorry I have to say this, but you are showing your age a little. The younger guys in the military, and the Officers' Corps, and to the little extent that I have known the police, have changed quite a bit going back even as far as 10 years. It's basically turned completely around. Patriotic means domination over the population and if you aren't doing anything wrong then you shouldn't worry about it.


And especially since military service has become just another entitlement program. Pay for college. Get health insurance. Get a lifetime pension retiring at 38 years old. Signing bonuses. Kids don't join the military for the right reasons any longer. They join because it's an income stream - and a pretty lucrative one at that.
ain't that lucrative. Try to raise a family on it, especially enlisted ranks.
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#7
Please don't remind me about trying to suppor yourself or a family on a low rank EM's salary lol
Perhaps my tin foil hat is a bit tight, but I still am weary of this regeme and its progrom titled 'Hope and Change' Add in the fact that I grew up around this type of politician, I would not put anything past him and his supporters to keep him in office.
Nothing is sacred to these power mad types. Not my life, not your life, not this countries future. Just their own desire for a worker's paradise to finally come to fruition here in America. And even accounting for those in LEO or .mil that will not help them keep power, there are many more that will just 'follow orders' regardless of their constitutionallity.
Dark days are ahead of us all my friends, even if I am wrong.
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(09-09-2012, 05:52 PM)gold cup abuser Wrote: Please don't remind me about trying to suppor yourself or a family on a low rank EM's salary lol
Perhaps my tin foil hat is a bit tight, but I still am weary of this regeme and its progrom titled 'Hope and Change' Add in the fact that I grew up around this type of politician, I would not put anything past him and his supporters to keep him in office.
Nothing is sacred to these power mad types. Not my life, not your life, not this countries future. Just their own desire for a worker's paradise to finally come to fruition here in America. And even accounting for those in LEO or .mil that will not help them keep power, there are many more that will just 'follow orders' regardless of their constitutionallity.
Dark days are ahead of us all my friends, even if I am wrong.
As long as there are such a thing as "LOBBYISTS" I think we all need a little tin foil around.
You do not give your bizillions of dollars to a just cause unless that just cause is you . I agree , pass the tin foil !
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#9
Only Congress has the power to postpone elections. Of course, I wouldn't put it past Obama to use an EO to close polling stations and to then tell Congress to shove it. This would be easily accomplished with a terror attack close to election day. IIRC 'W' considered doing just that. In the name of safety and security, Obama could get away with it. No one has the balls to stand up to him, and he knows it.

Of course, he wouldn't do it if he has the lead. So I say, let the pollsters have their way.
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#10
(09-07-2012, 09:45 PM)gold cup abuser Wrote: I am not a tin foil hat wearer of any stripe.
But what makes anyone think that there will be an election in November? And if there is one, and the election goes to Romney do you really think he will be inaguarated?
I know the type of politician Barrack is, I grew up with them. The socalist/communist forces in this country have waited most of their entire adult lives to get the US to this point of failure. And I know that they will stop at nothing now to preserve their power, and to have their worker's paradise enacted here.
Terrorists going through the Mexico/US border.
Muslim Brotherhood operatives seeded all through levels of domestic federal agencies and intel agencies.
What do they have to lose, and what do they have to gain if Barrak is not re-elected?
I am betting on a 'dirty bomb' or some other terrorist activity similar in scope to 9/11 just prior to or just after election day. Perfect time to delcare martial law, void the election and steam roll their agenda across this country.
Tin foil hat time anyone?
Or am I not as crazy as I feel for thinking such an event can happen, just to keep 'hope and change' going strong?
My tinfoil hat says everything in your post is 100% possible. My conspiracy theory is that we will be provided with the illusion of an election. In fact, my firm belief is that has been the case for a great many of years, to me it has seemed like the people have never really had a choice at the polls.

(09-07-2012, 10:28 PM)unclejumbo Wrote: I just don't see it. For every Obama supporter within various federal LE agencies, there's at least 5 that are conservative. It would require a level of subterfuge and conspiracy that would be all but impossible. A good many federal LEOs are prior military and are strongly patriotic. The most I see coming from Obama is some "wag the dog" scenario where we suddenly care that Iran has nukes, sometime in Oct. Some "intel" that Iran was actively working to get a bomb detonated on US soil so we had to act. Pump up the patriots, do some chest thumping and keep telling everybody to look over here, don't worry about the economy over there. It's not important, we're at war.
This is what I really fear. It's all right within their grasp.
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