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Will SC lawmakers vote to remove Confederate flag?
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Lets be honest and realistic here. Does ANYONE here actually believe that the Confederate BATTLE flag made this loon kill innocent people in church? I bet the guy had a TV also, maybe thats the cause, ban TV's how about a refidgerator? ban it also. This guy is mental defective theres your answer. Lets focus on the crazy guy not inatimate objects. das
Quote:Not so fast? Haley could face tough battle in push to remove Confederate flag
Published June 24, 2015FoxNews.com

Will SC lawmakers vote to remove Confederate flag?

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, after joining with other state leaders in calling for the Confederate flag to be removed from Statehouse grounds, could be in for a drawn-out legislative battle.

Under the state's own rules for even touching that Confederate flag, any changes are easier said than done.

“I would be shttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/24/not-so-fast-steps-to-remove-confederate-flag-in-sc-could-take-several-months/hocked if there wasn’t considerable or even vehement opposition from legislators, particularly from small rural towns,” William Gaston, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, toold Fox News.
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#2
All that matters is how it makes people feel. First it will be removed. Then it will be treated in the same manner as the Nazi flag is in Germany.

Granted...hard to stand behind the Confederate flag being hung in the SC Legislature because it was put there in direct opposition to the civil rights movement, but even if that was never the case liberals want it gone because it gives them "unpleasant feels."
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Camper;166963 Wrote:All that matters is how it makes people feel. First it will be removed. Then it will be treated in the same manner as the Nazi flag is in Germany.

Granted...hard to stand behind the Confederate flag being hung in the SC Legislature because it was put there in direct opposition to the civil rights movement, but even if that was never the case liberals want it gone because it gives them "unpleasant feels."
Liberals give me "unpleasant" feelings. How do we make them go away?

Camper;166963 Wrote:All that matters is how it makes people feel. First it will be removed. Then it will be treated in the same manner as the Nazi flag is in Germany.

Granted...hard to stand behind the Confederate flag being hung in the SC Legislature because it was put there in direct opposition to the civil rights movement, but even if that was never the case liberals want it gone because it gives them "unpleasant feels."
Liberals give me "unpleasant" feelings. How do we make them go away?
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#4
The latest poll of the SC senate had 19 yes (for taking it down) and 23 not yes (includes no, undecided and did not respond)
I am going to say if they wait and this dies down, the vote will be 22 to 20 to leave it where it is.

My solution is to fly it at half mast. That symbolism would be powerful.
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das;166964 Wrote:Liberals give me "unpleasant" feelings. How do we make them go away?

You're not allowed to feel "unpleasant" from them because you're not them. You should know by now, how much you don't like what they say or do or how they make you feel is meaningless. Only how THEY feel matters.
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#6
So it's the flags fault?

Hey now. This just got real.


NASCAR backs call to remove Confederate flag from South Carolina Statehouse

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2015/06/24...tatehouse/
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#7
NASCAR just alienated their fan base.
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#8
Dukes of Hazard will now be a blacklisted show, and the actors will be tried for hate-crimes.

Though I have to admit I'm SOOOO happy to not be seeing that stupid Autotrader commercial anymore. It was so annoying.
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I think it's going too far to start taking down statues of civil war leaders. There some very good men in the south that simply wanted states rights to avoid ending up like England again.

Of course, today, our government wants to be like England again...... Shrug
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/...guns-race/

Quote:WHITE HOUSE BLAMES WHITE MALE RESENTMENT FOR OBAMA FAILURES ON GUNS, RACE
It is perfectly emblematic of the empty, hashtagging political era that the primary role of government after a mass murder would be as a semiotic interpreter for the nation.

As governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton celebrated his state’s Confederate heritage with a special star in his state’s flag. Now his wife is running for president as an ardent foe of Confederate remembrance. The GOP consensus of 20 years ago was that the display of the Confederate battle flag was up to the ones displaying it. Now they are falling over each other to denounce its public display.

None of it makes much difference in the lives of Americans or on the question of good governance.

These are things that politicians do not as part of leadership but of followership – public cues intended to show voters that a candidate is “one of them.” But they do not do much to shape outcomes. Quite the opposite. These are things you do when you can’t do anything real.

Is racism a problem in America? Not nearly what it was, but of course it is. Is it something that the federal government is going to be able to remedy? Not a chance. Are mass killings, regardless of the ideological fixation of the killer, an ongoing problem? America ranks fourth in the world for mass-shooting fatalities, so there’s certainly a problem. Is it likely to be fixed by legislation? Almost certainly not.

So what’s with all the focus on the flag?

We get an insight into the thinking of the president and his party from a WaPo piece on his many frustrations with his administration’s failures on gun control and race relations:

“‘If you are a white man in America, this country is changing dramatically. You have always been in charge,’ said a senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity [to] be candid. ‘So there is something to white men feeling like something has been taken away from them.’”

Not one in 1,000 white males cares about the presence of a Confederate war monument on the grounds of the South Carolina statehouse. Not one in 1 million would share the racist worldview of the Charleston killer. The overwhelming majority are focused on keeping themselves and their families afloat in the face of enormous challenges.

But focusing on them as villains is revealing and attributing the resistance to gun control and other issues as a personal response to Obama’s African heritage is an unintentionally damning revelation.

There’s nothing the president can do about the real issues, so finding and blaming a boogeyman becomes job one.

Culture mulchers - “This generation seems to excel at inventing controversies, weighing in on those invented controversies, and then patting itself on the back for being so courageous and open-minded.” – The Federalist’s Mollie Hemingway in a column.

Gun control backers plot path - How will efforts to revive gun-control legislation fare? Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., tell WaPo they’re going to try again on some kind of expanded background check legislation… very carefully.
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