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http://nagr.org/2014/House/Betrayed.aspx?pid=1b June 2, 2014

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

This past Thursday, the U.S. House of Representatives took up an anti-gun amendment that provides an extra $20 million to fund Barack Obama's anti-gun agenda.

The goal is simple:

Acquire as many private medical records as possible and dump them into a national database as an excuse to label law-abiding citizens "mentally ill" and strip them of their gun rights, without due process, possibly for life.

As we've been warning you, this is the same type of excuse the Obama administration is currently using to deny over 175,000 of our nations veterans their Second Amendment rights.

Even though Republicans control the House and could have easily defeated this anti-gun scheme, one in three Republicans decided to break ranks and vote against your Second Amendment rights instead.

Here are the names and telephone numbers of the Republicans who voted for gun control last week:
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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das;145131 Wrote:http://nagr.org/2014/House/Betrayed.aspx?pid=1b June 2, 2014

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

This past Thursday, the U.S. House of Representatives took up an anti-gun amendment that provides an extra $20 million to fund Barack Obama's anti-gun agenda.

The goal is simple:

Acquire as many private medical records as possible and dump them into a national database as an excuse to label law-abiding citizens "mentally ill" and strip them of their gun rights, without due process, possibly for life.

As we've been warning you, this is the same type of excuse the Obama administration is currently using to deny over 175,000 of our nations veterans their Second Amendment rights.

Even though Republicans control the House and could have easily defeated this anti-gun scheme, one in three Republicans decided to break ranks and vote against your Second Amendment rights instead.

Here are the names and telephone numbers of the Republicans who voted for gun control last week:

Bill number? There's not mention of it in the article.
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#3
Rik Bitter;145160 Wrote:
das;145131 Wrote:http://nagr.org/2014/House/Betrayed.aspx?pid=1b June 2, 2014

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

This past Thursday, the U.S. House of Representatives took up an anti-gun amendment that provides an extra $20 million to fund Barack Obama's anti-gun agenda.

The goal is simple:

Acquire as many private medical records as possible and dump them into a national database as an excuse to label law-abiding citizens "mentally ill" and strip them of their gun rights, without due process, possibly for life.

As we've been warning you, this is the same type of excuse the Obama administration is currently using to deny over 175,000 of our nations veterans their Second Amendment rights.

Even though Republicans control the House and could have easily defeated this anti-gun scheme, one in three Republicans decided to break ranks and vote against your Second Amendment rights instead.

Here are the names and telephone numbers of the Republicans who voted for gun control last week:

Bill number? There's not mention of it in the article.
HERE YOU ARE RIK. (Source) Source = 2014 House Roll Call Vote #249 ITS ON THE BOTTOM ALSO. Here are the names and telephone numbers of the Republicans who voted for gun control last week:
Alabama

Spencer Bachus III (202) 225-4921

California
Darrell Issa (202) 225-3906
Edward Royce (202) 225-4111
Jeff Denham (202) 225-4540
David Valadao (202) 225-4695

Colorado
Mike Coffman (202) 225-7882

Florida
Vern Buchanan (202) 225-5015
Ander Crenshaw (202) 225-2501
Mario Diaz-Balart (202) 225-4211
Dennis Ross (202) 225-1252
David Jolly (202) 225-5961

Georgia
Rob Woodall (202) 225-4272

Illinois
Peter Roskam (202) 225-4561
Aaron Schock (202) 225-6201
Adam Kinzinger (202) 225-3635
Rodney Davis (202) 225-2371

Indiana
Larry Bucshon (202) 225-4636
Todd Young (202) 225-5315
Susan Brooks (202) 225-2276

Iowa
Tom Latham (202) 225-5476

Kentucky
Harold Rogers (202) 225-4601
Ed Whitfield (202) 225-3115

Michigan
Dave Camp (202) 225-3561
Mike Rogers (202) 225-4872
Fred Upton (202) 225-3761

Minnesota
Erik Paulsen (202) 225-2871

Missouri
Blaine Luetkemeyer (202) 225-2956
Ann Wagner (202) 225-1621

Nevada
Joseph Heck (202) 225-32521
Mark Amodei (202) 225-6155

New Jersey
Rodney Frelinghuysen (202) 225-5034
Frank LoBiondo (202) 225-6572
Christopher Smith (202) 225-3765
Leonard Lance (202) 225-5361
Jon Runyan (202) 225-4765 New York
Peter King (202) 225-7896
Tom Reed II (202) 225-3161
Michael Grimm (202) 225-3371
Christopher Gibson (202) 225-5614

North Carolina
Walter Jones Jr. (202) 225-3415

Ohio
Patrick Tiberi (202) 225-5355
Michael Turner (202) 225-6465
Steve Stivers (202) 225-2015
James Renacci (202) 225-3876
Bob Gibbs (202) 225-6265
David Joyce (202) 225-5731

Oregon
Greg Walden (202) 225-6730

Pennsylvania
Jim Gerlach (202) 225-4315
Tim Murphy (202) 225-2301
Joseph Pitts (202) 225-2411
Michael Fitzpatrick (202) 225-4276
Charles Dent (202) 225-6411
Glenn Thompson (202) 225-5121
Mike Kelly (202) 225-5406
Patrick Meehan (202) 225-2011
Tom Marino (202) 225-3731
Lou Barletta (202) 225-6511
Keith Rothfus (202) 225-2065

South Carolina
Trey Gowdy (202) 225-6030
Mick Mulvaney (202) 225-5501
Tom Rice (202) 225-9895

South Dakota
Kristi Noem (202) 225-2801

Virginia
Eric Cantor (202) 225-2815
Bob Goodlatte (202) 225-5431
Frank Wolf (202) 225-5136
Scott Rigell (202) 225-4215
Robert Hurt (202) 225-4711

Washington
Doc Hastings (202) 225-5816
Cathy McMorris Rodgers (202) 225-2006
David Reichert (202) 225-7761
Jaime Herrera Beutler (202) 225-3536

West Virginia
David McKinley (202) 225-4172

Wisconsin
Paul Ryan (202) 225-3031
Jim Sensenbrenner (202) 225-5101
Sean Duffy (202) 225-3365
Reid Ribble (202) 225-5665
(Source = 2014 House Roll Call Vote #249)

Please take a moment to call the members from your area and give them an earful.

Urge them to apologize for their anti-gun vote last week, and insist they abandon their support for President Obama's anti-gun agenda.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#4
I couldn't buy any of this because for some reason idiots can't simply put the bill link in their spam emails or the offending wording in the bill so we know why they are calling attention to it. it is H. R. 4660

it has a 30% chance of even seeing the senate.

it's 110 pages of crap. I would like one of those people yelling to point out what in here gives them the ability to label me insane and take away my gun rights before I go making phone calls.


The full text is here.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-cong.../4660/text


Quote:[Congressional Bills 113th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]
[H.R. 4660 Engrossed in House (EH)]

113th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 4660

_______________________________________________________________________

AN ACT



Making appropriations for the Departments of Commerce and Justice,
Science, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30,
2015, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
That the following sums are appropriated, out of any money in the
Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for the fiscal year ending
September 30, 2015, and for other purposes, namely:

TITLE I

DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

International Trade Administration

operations and administration

For necessary expenses for international trade activities of the
Department of Commerce provided for by law, and for engaging in trade
promotional activities abroad, including expenses of grants and
cooperative agreements for the purpose of promoting exports of United
States firms, without regard to sections 3702 and 3703 of title 44,
United States Code; full medical coverage for dependent members of
immediate families of employees stationed overseas and employees
temporarily posted overseas; travel and transportation of employees of
the International Trade Administration between two points abroad,
without regard to section 40118 of title 49, United States Code;
employment of citizens of the United States and aliens by contract for
services; rental of space abroad for periods not exceeding 10 years,
and expenses of alteration, repair, or improvement; purchase or
construction of temporary demountable exhibition structures for use
abroad; payment of tort claims, in the manner authorized in the first
paragraph of section 2672 of title 28, United States Code, when such
claims arise in foreign countries; not to exceed $294,300 for official
representation expenses abroad; purchase of passenger motor vehicles
for official use abroad, not to exceed $45,000 per vehicle; obtaining
insurance on official motor vehicles; and rental of tie lines,
$473,000,000 (reduced by $3,000,000) (reduced by $1), to remain
available until September 30, 2016, of which $10,000,000 is to be
derived from fees to be retained and used by the International Trade
Administration, notwithstanding section 3302 of title 31, United States
Code: Provided, That, of amounts provided under this heading, not less
than $16,400,000 shall be for China antidumping and countervailing duty
enforcement and compliance activities: Provided further, That the
provisions of the first sentence of section 105(f) and all of section
108© of the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act of 1961 (22
U.S.C. 2455(f) and 2458©) shall apply in carrying out these
activities; and that for the purpose of this Act, contributions under
the provisions of the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act of
1961 shall include payment for assessments for services provided as
part of these activities.
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#5
ExcelToExcel;145167 Wrote:I couldn't buy any of this because for some reason idiots can't simply put the bill link in their spam emails or the offending wording in the bill so we know why they are calling attention to it. it is H. R. 4660

it has a 30% chance of even seeing the senate.

it's 110 pages of crap. I would like one of those people yelling to point out what in here gives them the ability to label me insane and take away my gun rights before I go making phone calls.


The full text is here.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-cong.../4660/text


Quote:[Congressional Bills 113th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]
[H.R. 4660 Engrossed in House (EH)]

113th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 4660

_______________________________________________________________________

AN ACT



Making appropriations for the Departments of Commerce and Justice,
Science, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30,
2015, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
That the following sums are appropriated, out of any money in the
Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for the fiscal year ending
September 30, 2015, and for other purposes, namely:

TITLE I

DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

International Trade Administration

operations and administration

For necessary expenses for international trade activities of the
Department of Commerce provided for by law, and for engaging in trade
promotional activities abroad, including expenses of grants and
cooperative agreements for the purpose of promoting exports of United
States firms, without regard to sections 3702 and 3703 of title 44,
United States Code; full medical coverage for dependent members of
immediate families of employees stationed overseas and employees
temporarily posted overseas; travel and transportation of employees of
the International Trade Administration between two points abroad,
without regard to section 40118 of title 49, United States Code;
employment of citizens of the United States and aliens by contract for
services; rental of space abroad for periods not exceeding 10 years,
and expenses of alteration, repair, or improvement; purchase or
construction of temporary demountable exhibition structures for use
abroad; payment of tort claims, in the manner authorized in the first
paragraph of section 2672 of title 28, United States Code, when such
claims arise in foreign countries; not to exceed $294,300 for official
representation expenses abroad; purchase of passenger motor vehicles
for official use abroad, not to exceed $45,000 per vehicle; obtaining
insurance on official motor vehicles; and rental of tie lines,
$473,000,000 (reduced by $3,000,000) (reduced by $1), to remain
available until September 30, 2016, of which $10,000,000 is to be
derived from fees to be retained and used by the International Trade
Administration, notwithstanding section 3302 of title 31, United States
Code: Provided, That, of amounts provided under this heading, not less
than $16,400,000 shall be for China antidumping and countervailing duty
enforcement and compliance activities: Provided further, That the
provisions of the first sentence of section 105(f) and all of section
108© of the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act of 1961 (22
U.S.C. 2455(f) and 2458©) shall apply in carrying out these
activities; and that for the purpose of this Act, contributions under
the provisions of the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act of
1961 shall include payment for assessments for services provided as
part of these activities.
.....
The determination is whats cause for concern and by the way your tag line at the bottom of your screen is correct.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#6
I am not going to call my legislators except under the following two conditions:

1) You tell me EXACTLY what the bill or resolution number is and which house of a legislature it happens to be in. I can use that information to then find the text of the bill. All 50 states print their bills online while they're being formulated and kicked around committees. This allows me to read the legal text for myself and not just some spam bullshit.

2) You provide a summary of the offending language in the bill. The English you need to provide would sound like:

"SB 1234 contains a provision that creates a mandatory nationwide gun registry that no one can get out of."




I can deduce from there whether or not it's worth my time to call a bunch of legislators and NOT sound like a typical bullshit artist, but instead an educated person who supports/objects to a piece of legislation.

Til then, I'm ignoring bullshit like this like I shread all the crap I get from NRA-PVF. At least the GOA quarterly newsletter does a little... and I mean a LITTLE... bit of respect to its readers by giving them some precise detail rather than some spam bullshit.

At least the thread title doesn't have 'a call to arms' in it, trolling this whole board into calling a bunch of legislative aides who will be just as confused as I am at locating which specific bill it is that you're pissed-off about.
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#7
ArcticSplash;145179 Wrote:I am not going to call my legislators except under the following two conditions:

1) You tell me EXACTLY what the bill or resolution number is and which house of a legislature it happens to be in. I can use that information to then find the text of the bill. All 50 states print their bills online while they're being formulated and kicked around committees. This allows me to read the legal text for myself and not just some spam bullshit.

2) You provide a summary of the offending language in the bill. The English you need to provide would sound like:

"SB 1234 contains a provision that creates a mandatory nationwide gun registry that no one can get out of."
Dont shoot the messenger. I am not calling on people to do anything or I would have put it under Legislative action. I believe I posted the bill number 2x.



I can deduce from there whether or not it's worth my time to call a bunch of legislators and NOT sound like a typical bullshit artist, but instead an educated person who supports/objects to a piece of legislation.

Til then, I'm ignoring bullshit like this like I shread all the crap I get from NRA-PVF. At least the GOA quarterly newsletter does a little... and I mean a LITTLE... bit of respect to its readers by giving them some precise detail rather than some spam bullshit.

At least the thread title doesn't have 'a call to arms' in it, trolling this whole board into calling a bunch of legislative aides who will be just as confused as I am at locating which specific bill it is that you're pissed-off about.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#8
I see I was dead on. Nothing.. people just yelling for yelling sakes and without any knowledge of the "issue" I'm not reading 100 pages of shit so I can follow up with a telephone call to my rep if I find something. I doubt there is anything or someone would point the fucking facts out..
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#9
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2014/h249

Quote:H.Amdt. 704 (Thompson) to H.R. 4660: An amendment to increase funding for the National Instant Criminal Background Check system by ...
On the Amendment in the House

Number: House Vote #249 [primary source: house.gov]
Date: May 29, 2014 (113th Congress)
Result: Agreed to

This was a vote to approve or reject an amendment.
Bill: H.R. 4660: Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2015

Amendment:
H.Amdt. 704 (Thompson) to H.R. 4660: An amendment to increase funding for the National Instant Criminal Background Check system by $19.5 million offset by reducing funding for Departmental Management ($1 million); Justice Information Sharing Technology ($
Offered by Rep. Mike Thompson [D-CA5] on May 28, 2014
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#10
Yes that's the same one i posted... There is nothing in it that I can see that does anything like authorize gun confiscation and it's 100 pages.

soberbyker;145239 Wrote:https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2014/h249

Quote:H.Amdt. 704 (Thompson) to H.R. 4660: An amendment to increase funding for the National Instant Criminal Background Check system by ...
On the Amendment in the House

Number: House Vote #249 [primary source: house.gov]
Date: May 29, 2014 (113th Congress)
Result: Agreed to

This was a vote to approve or reject an amendment.
Bill: H.R. 4660: Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2015

Amendment:
H.Amdt. 704 (Thompson) to H.R. 4660: An amendment to increase funding for the National Instant Criminal Background Check system by $19.5 million offset by reducing funding for Departmental Management ($1 million); Justice Information Sharing Technology ($
Offered by Rep. Mike Thompson [D-CA5] on May 28, 2014
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