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Wolf imposes moratorium on death penalty
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Camper;161891 Wrote:I support the Death Penalty.

However, I also believe that if it isn't carried through within 2 years of it being awarded then it is no deterrent. And, if the evidence isn't strong enough so as to warrant a legitimate appeal then the death penalty shouldn't have been the verdict.

Therefore, all death penalty appeals should be fast-tracked through the system to ensure the punishment is dolled out as fast as possible. If a person is given the death penalty, it should happen quickly. Not years or decades later.

Promising your kids that you'll spank them--eventually, most likely--is no deterrent when you send them to their room for some long drawn out time with their TV, Xbox, and books.

Absolutely. And in some of the worst cases, there has been enough evidence to give the penalty within a month or less. And it should be done that quickly.
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I used to be staunchly pro-death penalty. However, the more I become aware of how inept, inefficient, and corrupt our judicial system is, the more I question it. So, I guess I actually agree with Wolf on this. Too many people have been found to have been wrongly convicted and sentenced over the years, thanks to forensic evidence like DNA testing. In my mind, one person is too many.

And since the abortion topic was thrown out, I used to be pro-choice too. Now, I'm not quite sure where I stand on it. I'm not saying women shouldn't have body autonomy, but...there is a point where it ceases to be a clump of cells, and starts to become a human life. That's not due to any religious or spiritual leanings (I have none), just purely from a medical/scientific view.
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jahwarrior72;161899 Wrote:I used to be staunchly pro-death penalty. However, the more I become aware of how inept, inefficient, and corrupt our judicial system is, the more I question it. So, I guess I actually agree with Wolf on this. Too many people have been found to have been wrongly convicted and sentenced over the years, thanks to forensic evidence like DNA testing. In my mind, one person is too many.

And since the abortion topic was thrown out, I used to be pro-choice too. Now, I'm not quite sure where I stand on it. I'm not saying women shouldn't have body autonomy, but...there is a point where it ceases to be a clump of cells, and starts to become a human life. That's not due to any religious or spiritual leanings (I have none), just purely from a medical/scientific view.


I see what you're saying but I don't believe abortion and the death penalty are even comparable. One is an innocent, defenseless human, and the other is a vile human who chose to take someone else's right to life, often torturously and violently.

I realize it's a bad thing if an innocent gets wrongly convicted....but how many of those innocents had perfectly clean records before being sentenced to death? Or maybe they were wrongly accused because they were already living the criminal lifestyle? And why let all the axe murderers get off just because one of them might not have actually touched the axe? (They just robbed 8 stores and raped two women.)

I definitely feel like we have way too much medical knowledge to be allowing the rampant abortion allowed today. People get 3D ultrasounds, for goodness' sake, that show perfectly formed human babies. No excuses. I think it's time to stop blaming anti-abortion on religion and start looking at the scientific evidence supporting personhood.
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(02-17-2015, 05:10 PM)RugerGirl Wrote:
jahwarrior72;161899 Wrote:I used to be staunchly pro-death penalty. However, the more I become aware of how inept, inefficient, and corrupt our judicial system is, the more I question it. So, I guess I actually agree with Wolf on this. Too many people have been found to have been wrongly convicted and sentenced over the years, thanks to forensic evidence like DNA testing. In my mind, one person is too many.

And since the abortion topic was thrown out, I used to be pro-choice too. Now, I'm not quite sure where I stand on it. I'm not saying women shouldn't have body autonomy, but...there is a point where it ceases to be a clump of cells, and starts to become a human life. That's not due to any religious or spiritual leanings (I have none), just purely from a medical/scientific view.


I see what you're saying but I don't believe abortion and the death penalty are even comparable. One is an innocent, defenseless human, and the other is a vile human who chose to take someone else's right to life, often torturously and violently.

I realize it's a bad thing if an innocent gets wrongly convicted....but how many of those innocents had perfectly clean records before being sentenced to death? Or maybe they were wrongly accused because they were already living the criminal lifestyle? And why let all the axe murderers get off just because one of them might not have actually touched the axe? (They just robbed 8 stores and raped two women.)

I definitely feel like we have way too much medical knowledge to be allowing the rampant abortion allowed today. People get 3D ultrasounds, for goodness' sake, that show perfectly formed human babies. No excuses. I think it's time to stop blaming anti-abortion on religion and start looking at the scientific evidence supporting personhood.

Unfortunately, when the lawyers get involved they purposely appeal, looking and waiting for a "Wolf" to show up. Watch and wait while all the death row inmates use the Governor's decision as a reason their case should be reduced or thrown out. They stall purposefully in an attempt to get a life sentence, rather than the death penalty.

On the flip side, to me personally, I whole heartedly support the death penalty, however, I personally could not carry it out in a case that did not include "smoking gun" evidence. The cop killer case is one of those I would support.
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