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Ten*K;161232 Wrote:I would hope to see a reasonable extraction tax that puts money into the state coffers without hampering in investments and employment.

However, even a high tax wont make a difference if the money isnt spent wisely and for truly necessary purposes. Roads, bridges, school upgrades... not teacher salaries,mind you, but for fuck's sake I'm sitting in an elementary school right now that has no HEAT!

But yet they have internet access...Shrug
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P89;161234 Wrote:
Ten*K;161232 Wrote:I would hope to see a reasonable extraction tax that puts money into the state coffers without hampering in investments and employment.

However, even a high tax wont make a difference if the money isnt spent wisely and for truly necessary purposes. Roads, bridges, school upgrades... not teacher salaries,mind you, but for fuck's sake I'm sitting in an elementary school right now that has no HEAT!

But yet they have internet access...Shrug

Im on my phone. They do have limited internet for employee use, but not even WIFI.
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Ten*K;161232 Wrote:I would hope to see a reasonable extraction tax that puts money into the state coffers without hampering in investments and employment.

However, even a high tax wont make a difference if the money isnt spent wisely and for truly necessary purposes. Roads, bridges, school upgrades... not teacher salaries,mind you, but for fuck's sake I'm sitting in an elementary school right now that has no HEAT!

But welfare, luxury public housing, and payola to all the cronies and political grifters with no-show "jobs" all need to be trimmed and/or eliminated.

We the people are the ones who will end up paying dearly for a extraction tax. If the elementary school has no heat, someone needs to look hard at how the money is being spent.
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#14
Camper;161225 Wrote:
gnbrotz;161224 Wrote:AND state forests, which is far more acreage the state parks alone. I don't have the stats at my fingertips. I don't see the issue with it (fracking, that is, not the ban) since logging and other activities which disturb the "natural" state of things are pemitted.

I'm not a fan of the logging in state parks either.

I have no issue at all with fracking or logging (so long as both are done safely and not at the expense of the land), but I think it should be only on public lands. When you have a private entity vying for land-use rights with a governmental entity there is too much possibility for corruption and political manipulation.

I feel the same way about federal lands (potential for corruption wise), but make the exception because in some areas of the country the feds own the overwhelming majority of the state.

We bid on the state land logging contracts.
We know what we bid and after the bid is awarded we know what the other bids were.
Our company knows the other companies, if there was some shit going on as far as the bidding it wouldn't take long to figure out.

A few years back we logged off state land at Mt. Davis near Myersdale.
The trees were struck with blight.
If they had not been logged they would have become a tinderbox or would have caused more disease.

People look down on logging, but most seem to overlook the loggers cutting down trees when they are wiping their asses with toilet PAPER.

I'm not calling you out personally, but I just get so sick of the whining about logging when people really don't have a clue as to why it happens many times especially on state lands.

Ten*K;161232 Wrote:I would hope to see a reasonable extraction tax that puts money into the state coffers without hampering in investments and employment.

However, even a high tax wont make a difference if the money isnt spent wisely and for truly necessary purposes. Roads, bridges, school upgrades... not teacher salaries,mind you, but for fuck's sake I'm sitting in an elementary school right now that has no HEAT!

But welfare, luxury public housing, and payola to all the cronies and political grifters with no-show "jobs" all need to be trimmed and/or eliminated.

Sounds like a piss poor school board the people keep electing.
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Ten*K;161235 Wrote:Im on my phone. They do have limited internet for employee use, but not even WIFI.

The schools shouldn't be paying for public use wifi.


39Flathead;161254 Wrote:People look down on logging, but most seem to overlook the loggers cutting down trees when they are wiping their asses with toilet PAPER.

I'm not calling you out personally, but I just get so sick of the whining about logging when people really don't have a clue as to why it happens many times especially on state lands.

Logging dying trees or culling overgrowth isn't exploitation of the forest, and isn't what I'm talking about as far as objecting. And just because I'm not a fan of something doesn't mean that I don't recognize the need.
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Camper;161261 Wrote:
Ten*K;161235 Wrote:Im on my phone. They do have limited internet for employee use, but not even WIFI.

The schools shouldn't be paying for public use wifi.


There is NO WiFi for anyone's use, let alone a guest.
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Ten*K;161263 Wrote:
Camper;161261 Wrote:The schools shouldn't be paying for public use wifi.

There is NO WiFi for anyone's use, let alone a guest.

In a school setting where the systems are connected via ethernet cable, and the purpose of that inter-connectivity is to conduct school business/education, what is the benefit of wifi?

Should the schools spend tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to convert an existing, working Ethernet based network to wireless? What would be the purpose?

Wifi is great, and can make life very easy. However simply because it exists doesn't mean it is necessary--or even cost effective--to install it to replace existing infrastructure.
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Its not like theres an additional cost for wifi, other than a router and a few repeaters. But lets make sure that the House of Blues gets $2,000,000 to build another shitty venue in Philly.
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I look for Wolf to be the typical liberal taxer and spendthrift, smattered with crony favoritism. In essence, he dug up some poop on Former Governor Corbett's man, so he could give a job to someone, or their family member, who paid heavily into his campaign.
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#20
Ten*K;161305 Wrote:Its not like theres an additional cost for wifi, other than a router and a few repeaters.

There's added cost of equipment in an enterprise environment because the equipment you would use in an enterprise environment is higher priced than what you'd find in your local Best Buy, and you need more of it. And considering most schools are cinder-block or concrete, now you're into ensuring the signal is getting into the classrooms where its needed.

And in order to ensure you're going to get good coverage, you need a site survey. Granted, Cisco (or others) may provide this for you free of charge but only because they know the money you will be spending will more than pay for it.

Then there is the upgrading of the systems already in place to work with a wireless network. Those TV's in the classroom may connect via ethernet and that smartboard on the wall certainly does, but are they capable of running wireless? Do you need to upgrade that, or will you leave the existing ethernet in place to service those devices? And if you're relying for existing ethernet to service the majority of devices why bother the upgrade?

And lets not forget the desktops that most certainly are running ethernet. They'll all require additional hardware in order to utilize the network. Figure $30 per system for a dual band card is fairly accurate.

Then the labor cost to install it all, because there will still be installation charges and likely cable to be run and likely electrical to power those WAP's....unless you're going to use PoE equipment, which is of course more costly but may cut down on some of the new electrical work (some, not all).

And now that wireless is there, there's dealing with the fun of kids who remove the antennas from the wireless cards and keeping them from hopping onto it with the wifi sniffer/cracker apps on their phones, as well as the occasional public visitor doing the same, especially during a school program they don't really want to be there for in the first place.

I'm sure I missed something....

Quote:But lets make sure that the House of Blues gets $2,000,000 to build another shitty venue in Philly.

This is outrageous and the problem with government...and also why I'm not a fan of companies using state lands. Why is House of Blues so important that they get 2 million dollars? Why not a few more Chic-Fil-A's or Hobby Lobbys?

Other than maybe giving a temporary tax exemption or exception (TEMPORARY) to incentive companies to build/move in locations that have sat empty for well over a year, the government needs to keep out of all this crap.
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